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Why Vets Are Getting Away With Murder

vet dog vaccineHow’s that for a title?  If it got your attention, that’s good because this topic needs your attention.  It used to be that dogs visited the vet pretty rarely.  They only needed a couple of vaccines, they weren’t eating veterinary prescription diets and they weren’t continually loaded with heartworm preventives, flea and tick meds and shampoos, dewormers, pharmaceuticals and more.  Thinking back, maybe that’s why they didn’t need to go to the vet all that often.

Today, there’s a very different veterinary clinic.  It’s true that we now have better treatment options at our disposal, such as MRIs and more technologically advanced surgery.  I think it’s great that vets – and our pets – have access to these modern, life-saving tools.

But somewhere along the way, the veterinary practice lost perspective.

I’m not talking about individual vets; I believe that most of them want to do right by our pets.  But the problem is vets have allowed themselves to be influenced by the pharmaceutical companies and the dog food manufacturers – to the great detriment of our pets.

The veterinary profession is broken and it isn’t about to change any time soon.  Our pets are being over-serviced and we’re getting fleeced. We pay for the unnecessary vaccinations, the overly-processed, synthetic prescription pet foods that contain ingredients from China, and we pay for drugs and chemicals that are damaging to the immune system.

After shelling out for these services,  pet owners need to keep their wallets open because, sooner or later, the chronic disease caused by these products like allergies and cancer will start to kick in and require treatment.  They  threaten the quality and quantity of life for our companion animals – and many of these diseases are caused by the products vets tell us are safe and effective.

The sad fact is, some common veterinary practices are harming our dogs.  Vets today have too many drugs, vaccines and chemicals at their disposal and they’re overly willing to dispense them.  The worst part is, they hold no accountability for their actions.  In short, they can and do ignore vaccine label recommendations or prescribe harmful or unnecessary drugs and we pet owners have no  recourse.

I believe that the most common and most harmful veterinary practice is over-vaccination.  Not only do the vaccines cause a lot of damage in our dogs, but nearly every vaccine vets give our dogs is unnecessary.

Pay attention to that sentence:  nearly every vaccine given to our dogs is useless – they get no benefit but all of the risk.

How could this happen?  How can vets cause so much disease and devastation in our dogs without even knowing it?

Vets Don’t Understand Immunology or Vaccines

I paraphrase Dr Ronald Schultz, the leading veterinary immunologist when I say that vets are not prepared to make vaccine decisions.  In the March 2012 issue of Dogs Naturally, we published an article where we interviewed various vets on their thoughts and experience with vaccines.  Here are some of the responses we got:

“I was taught vaccines were safe and it was implied there had been safety studies done on them before they were used on the general public. They are not safe and there have not been any safety studies done on any of them.  I was taught that if something adverse happens within a few hours after immunization it was related to the vaccines but, if it happened later than that period of time, it had nothing to do with the vaccines. The truth of the matter is vaccines can set up a latent condition that may show up within a few hours or years after immunization.”  (Dr. Stephen Blake)

“My training in vet school was not complete with regard to the harmful effects that vaccines have on the immune system.  The scientific evidence was not properly explored by the eighties. Vaccines were designed to help stimulate immunity.  Current research is proving just the opposite however.  Even my graduate school immunology course (attended mainly by MD students) was incomplete.  (Dr Jeff Feinman)

“Vaccination in college was skimmed over with little discussion of potential risks involved.  In practice I have seen what I believe to be vaccine related problems of skin disease (allergic); inflammatory bowel disease; and epilepsy which appear to have been triggered or coincided with vaccination.”  (Dr. Mark Carpenter)

So here we have a substance that we now know can cause many acute and chronic health issues – even death – and the vets themselves admit that they really weren’t educated in their use.  More importantly, because the veterinary colleges are financially aligned with the pharmaceutical companies, most of the curriculum is very pro-vaccine with little time spent discussing the very real issue of harmful reactions. How could this happen?

More Is Not Better

Back in the 1970′s, dogs were only vaccinated for only one or two diseases.  Today, there are vaccines for adenovirus, parainfluenza, bordetella, Lyme disease, leptospirosis, hepatitis, rabies, canine flu, coronavirus – and there are more and more coming down the pipe.  Today, dogs and puppies are often vaccinated with seven or more viruses at the same time.

It’s been largely acknowledged for the last thirty or forty years that the core vaccines most likely last for the life of the animal.  Not only are vets delivering more and more vaccines to our pets, they’re continuing to do so on a schedule that has clearly and consistently been proven to be both ineffective and dangerous.

In the 1970′s, all vaccines, with the exception of rabies vaccines, were licensed by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) based on challenge studies performed from only a few weeks to a few months after vaccination. All the vaccine labels included the statement ‘‘Annual Revaccination Recommended’’ without the knowledge of whether the true duration of immunity (DOI) was a year or a life time.  So vets vaccinated yearly, even though field observation suggested that immunity after both natural infection and vaccination was long lived.

“The patient receives no benefit and may be placed at serious risk when an unnecessary vaccine is given.”  Says Dr. Schultz.  “Few or no scientific studies have demonstrated a need for cats or dogs to be revaccinated.”

Yet vets continue to send us postcards telling us we need to bring our pets in for even more vaccinations, either every year or every three years.  Whichever schedule the vet chooses is a moot point because science shows that revaccination isn’t necessary in most cases.

Immunity is like being a virgin – you either are or you aren’t and once you change, there’s no changing back again.

Dogs are either immune or they are not, and once immune, there is every indication that this lasts a lifetime.  Distemper, for example, has been shown to last for 7 to 15 years.  In fact, all of the core vaccines have shown this kind of lifespan.

So why do vets continue to vaccinate unnecessarily?

“Profits are what vaccine critics believe is at the root of the profession’s resistance to update its protocols. Without the lure of vaccines, clients might be less inclined to make yearly veterinary visits. Vaccines add up to 14 percent of the average practice’s income, AAHA reports, and veterinarians stand to lose big.  I suspect some are ignoring my work,” says Schultz, who claims some distemper vaccines last as long as 15 years. “Tying vaccinations into the annual visit became prominent in the 1980s and a way of practicing in the 1990s. Now veterinarians don’t want to give it up.”

Even those vets who want to do the right thing are vaccinating our pets too often and with too much.  As stated above, they’re not prepared to make balanced vaccine decisions because the veterinary colleges rely on the vaccine manufacturers to prepare their immunology curriculum.  Clearly, no matter how much pet owners trust their vets, they can’t rely on them to protect their animals from unnecessary vaccination and the damage it causes.

But what about the veterinary associations – aren’t they looking out for our pets?

The Fox Is Watching The Hen House

In 1978, when vets were vaccinating annually, Schultz et al published ‘‘An Ideal (But Not Proven) Immunization Schedule for Dogs and Cats’’. They recommended a series of puppy/kitten vaccinations followed by revaccination at 1 year, then revaccination every 3 years.

Research was initiated at that time to prove his suspicions and dogs where challenged with exposure to distemper, adenovirus and parvovirus, anywhere from 1 to 11 years after vaccination.

Every single dog was protected when exposed to the virus.

“The results from this limited group of dogs clearly demonstrated the Norden modified live vaccines provided immunity for at least 11 years against CDV and CPV-2″ says Dr Schultz.

These early recommendations prompted the AAHA to assemble a task force.  In 2003, the American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Task Force evaluated the data from these challenge and serological studies and, while noting that the core vaccines had a minimum duration of immunity of at least seven years, compromised in 2003 with the statement that “revaccination every 3 years is considered protective.

Task force member Dr Richard Ford, Professor of Medicine, North Carolina State University, said that the decision to recommend a three year revaccination schedule for core vaccines was a compromise.

“It’s completely arbitrary…,” he said. “I will say there is no science behind the three-year recommendation…”

Today, a decade later, despite more and more research showing long lasting immunity for core vaccines and the deleterious effects of vaccination, the AAHA hasn’t changed it’s position all that much. The 2011 revaccination guidelines state:  “every 3 years or more” with the following comment: “Among healthy dogs, all commercially available [core] vaccines are expected to induce a sustained protective immune response lasting at least 5 yr. thereafter”

Why do the guidelines state that the immune response lasts at least 5 years (and even this is a serious underestimation) yet vets stick to that magically arbitrary schedule of 3 years?

“Both the AAHA and the AVMA must do more to “step up to the plate” says noted immunologist, Dr. Richard Ford. But the reality is, the vets don’t have to listen to the AAHA or the AVMA and it appears the state veterinary medical boards are not interested in enforcing vaccine schedules, opting to leave it up to the individual vet.

This is extremely problematic because, as the vets themselves have revealed, they’re not prepared to make a decision on how often they should vaccinate and what vaccines they should give.  In the end, the vets are over-vaccinating either out of ignorance or greed, and the governing bodies only seem interest in protecting the financial interests of their veterinary members.

Speaking of that, it’s noteworthy that the major sponsors of the AAHA guidelines are the major pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines.

Informed Consent

Why are most pet owners unaware of vaccine dangers?  Because vets are led to believe that vaccines are safe, they lead us to believe they are safe.  That’s not an excuse.

If vets are to take our money for the delivery of medical procedures, they’d darn well better know the safety and efficacy of that procedure. It’s the vets’ responsibility to fully understand the risks and benefits of every medical procedure they perform on our pets and to research it thoroughly.

Here’s the most important part:  it’s also their responsibility to inform pet owners of the risks and benefits of that procedure.

How many pet owners are given full disclosure when their animals are vaccinated?  How many vets warn them that the vaccine may cause injection site sarcomas, other forms of cancer, severe allergic reactions or even anaphylactic shock and death?

Here’s the list of adverse events known to be induced via vaccine administration (Schultz, 2007):

Common Reactions:

  • Lethargy
  • Hair Loss, hair color change at injection Site
  • Fever
  • Soreness
  • Stiffness
  • Refusal to eat
  • Conjunctivitis
  • Sneezing
  • Oral ulcers

Moderate Reactions:

  • Immunosupression
  • Behavioral changes
  • Vitiligo
  • Weight loss (Cachexia)
  • Reduced milk production
  • Lameness
  • Granulomas/Abscesses
  • Hives
  • FacialeEdema
  • Atopy
  • Respiratory disease
  • Allergic uveitis (Blue Eye)

Severe Reactions triggered by Vaccines:

  • Vaccine injection site sarcomas
  • Anaphylaxis
  • Arthritis, polyarthritis
  • HOD hypertrophy osteodystrophy
  • Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia
  • Immune Mediated Thrombocytopenia (IMTP)
  • Hemolytic disease of the newborn (Neonatal Isoerythrolysis)
  • Thyroiditis
  • Glomerulonephritis
  • Disease or enhanced disease which with the vaccine was designed to prevent
  • Myocarditis
  • Post vaccinal Encephalitis or polyneuritis
  • Seizures
  • Abortion, congenital anomalies, embryonic/fetal death, failure to conceive

Why aren’t we informed of this before our pets are vaccinated?

Every day, dogs are permanently damaged from vaccines and vets continue to urge us to vaccinate without any regard to the potential risks.  There are thousands of pet owners with pets dying of cancer or suffering from severe allergies who wish they could turn back the clock and be given a second chance to consent to that vaccination – with their eyes wide open and fully aware of both the risks and the benefits of that seemingly innocuous needle.

In human medicine, performing a medical procedure without full disclosure and informed consent would be called malpractice and there would most definitely be a lawsuit.  In veterinary practice, this doesn’t happen.

Which leads me to the final point.

Why Veterinary Malpractice Is An Illusion

Until the mid-part of the last century, the term “malpractice” didn’t even apply to veterinarians (and still may not in some states where this profession isn’t listed under the malpractice statute).  Recently, however, veterinarians have become subject to state malpractice actions.

Despite this trend, veterinarian malpractice lawsuits still aren’t that common because the measure of damages for the loss of a pet in most states is the market value of the pet. In other words, what someone else would pay for an identical pet of the same age, breed and condition.

In nearly all cases, lawyer’s fees would be more than pet owners would be able to recover in court. Also, pet owners have to prove the same things you would have proven in a medical malpractice case, which isn’t always easy or inexpensive.  A few states allow monetary damages for emotional distress and loss of companionship. However, awards for an owner’s mental suffering are the exception rather than the rule.

So it seems the veterinary colleges can continue to allow the vaccine manufacturers to teach their students about immunology, the vets can continue to deliver unnecessary and dangerous vaccines to our animals without full disclosure of their risks, the veterinary associations will continue to make vague statements regarding vaccine duration of immunity and refuse to monitor the activities of their members, and our pets will continue to suffer because nobody cares enough to do anything about it.

Well, that’s not entirely true.  I care.  I care a lot.  And because you’re reading this article, I know that you care too.

What Can Pet Owners Do?

Just because we can’t sue vets doesn’t meant we can’t sock it to them financially.  If we demand informed consent and refuse any and all unnecessary vaccinations, we’ll force vets to look into different revenue sources.  Look your vet in the eye and tell him that the repeated core vaccines he is advocating are not only unnecessary but dangerous – and have the paperwork to back it up (just read this article and we’ll give you all you need).  Then kindly decline any vaccinations that Dr Schultz’s research shows as unnecessary.

There are other ways you can influence vets financially.  Stop buying their crappy prescription diets.  They’re full of synthetic and processed ingredients that can harm your pet.

Better yet, support those vets who don’t push needless vaccinations, overly-processed foods or other harmful pharmaceuticals.

Finally, demand that any and all vaccine and drug reactions are reported to the right agencies.  Remember, it can take months or years for vaccine damage to rear its ugly head. Here are the phone numbers and websites you need to know:

For adverse veterinary drug reactions:

Center for Veterinary Medicine, Food and Drug Administration

888-332-8387

www.fda.gov/cvm/contactcvm/contactCVM.html and follow the link for report a drug reaction.

For veterinary vaccines and other biologicals:

Center for Biologics, USDA

800-752-6255

www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/cvb/ic/adverseeventreport.htm

For topical insecticides

EPA:  800-858-7378

The best solution is to give our money only to the best vets who have done their homework on vaccines and immunology.  There are many good holistic vets to be found and if we give them our money instead of the vets who choose to over-vaccinate, we’ll force the rest of those vets to also start learning about natural health care.

You are the only thing that stands between your dog and harmful veterinary over-servicing.  By educating yourself and refusing unnecessary vaccination, you can help fix what’s broken with the veterinary system.

 

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147 Responses to Why Vets Are Getting Away With Murder

  1. Jennifer February 26, 2014 at 3:45 PM #

    I am so tired of reading articles like this.
    I find them very informative and then I get to the comments and see so many people bashing the information.
    Why oh why do people who don’t agree with the information even reading it. If you totally believe in vaccinations, are you reading these sorts of articles simply to fight with the writer of the article and those who support it?
    Safety testing on vaccines is almost non-existent. Sorry, but it is a business, so to say that a veterinarian is not trying to make money off vaccines and other testing is ridiculous. I have had animals where they want them in repeatedly for blood work. It wasn’t necessary, but it definitely costs me a lot of money. I have taken 2 animals in at completely different times and their situations were totally different, but the answer I got was we don’t know what is wrong, but it is probably cancer. One situation was before I knew how to feed raw and my dog was dying from the recalled dog food. Guess what, it wasn’t cancer, it was the food they had given him killing him. When I asked after it was recalled if they thought it could be the food, they totally dismissed it I believe because they thought I was going to hold them responsible, but I wasn’t. I lost him because of the stupid food they told me he needed and then they didn’t do anything to help him. And my almost 15 year old cat, I was told 2 years ago she probably had cancer when she was really sick. So, I needed to leave her there for IV and testing, etc. It was she needed to eat. If I had listened to them, she would have died. She isn’t vaccinated anymore and she is doing awesome for a 15 year old cat.
    Then there was a vet that dealt with my one dog who was so open to my use of homeopathy with him and was so impressed that it had worked and he was wonderful. There was a holistic vet I saw who was also wonderful.
    Yes there are great vets out there who are there for the animals but more who are interested in making money. Which is why I stopped working in a vet clinic.
    So, if you don’t agree with not vaccinating or very few vaccines, don’t read articles like these. Go find articles that are pro vaccines and comment there. Find something better to do with your time then pick fights with those of us who do our research and have decided what is best for our families.

  2. Ashley Warrick February 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM #

    Is this why my cat randomly developed feline asthma after getting shots. I told the vet I thought it was due to her shots and he shot me down. Now I am afraid to go back. Wow. Should I eveb give them shots, what should I do?

    • Alison February 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM #

      I’ve chosen to not vaccinate anymore.
      I’m a small breeder of working cockers and took back a girl with severe behaviour problems when she was 2 years old. Her owners were ruled by their friendly vet who routinely gave her flea, tick and worm treatments each month. She is reactive to noise, people leaving the room and sudden movement. At this point I moved to a raw meat diet and no chemicals for all my animals.
      After 3 years with a new owner this girl is back again after severely wounding her dads hand.
      She was diagnosed with glaucoma last year and I discovered that she wasn’t getting her eye drops as her owner didn’t think her eye was her ‘problem’.
      I’ve done my reading on glaucoma and wonder how long she may have had tunnel vision and also how much pain she may be suffering from.
      Latest research shows that glaucoma can start at the beginning of the optic nerve in the centre of the brain where the sound receptors are also located, could this be damage from toxins? Who knows?
      All my breeding girls are tested clear for glaucoma as are the stud dogs that I use so no noted hereditary issues.
      Any help out there…..

      • Dr. S February 27, 2014 at 8:39 PM #

        Take her to the vet…

        and glaucoma doesnt have to be hereditary. About the dog mauling the owner, its a behavioural issue that needs to be dealt with (possibly anxiety issues which are enhanced by the onset of visual loss), the owner probably is unaware of how to handle it, and doesnt care…

  3. Dra.Lori February 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM #

    I would just like to remind everyone in response to the repeated comments that vets are “getting rich off of vaccines” that we go to school for eight years, begin our careers with over $200,000 in student loans, and the average annual salary paid to veterinarians is $70,000. No one is “getting rich off of vaccines.” Period.

    Also, please keep in mind that there will always be a few bad apples in every profession. Taking into account our salaries versus our debt, what drives us is our love for animals. If you aren’t happy with your current vet, pick another one! It is our job to educate clients, because we know that informed clients will make for better pet owners.

    • Sue Ritter February 19, 2014 at 1:05 PM #

      Well if it’s the vet’s responsibility to educate the pet owner then it is the vets responsibility to be educated so (s)he can provide the right ibformation.

      • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM #

        Right on, Sue!!

      • Dr. S February 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM #

        It is a vets’ responsibility to be educated enough to provide the right information, but its a vets right to charge an owner whatever he or she wants to (in line with industry standards) – in order to provide the animal with treatment that the vet has spent all his or her time at vet school to learn

  4. Dr. Micah February 17, 2014 at 6:31 PM #

    Ouch. It’s articles like this that continue to spread false information. I understand completely the concern people have about over-vaccinating/prescribing/etc. We all love our pets and want to do everything we possibly can to ensure they remain healthy for many years to come. I agree that pet owners/parents should NOT simply accept the recommendations of their vet as gospel and start asking more questions. Equally, pet owners should also NOT take this article as gospel, they should ask questions about the validity of the information written here. Sadly, there is no way for you or anyone reading this to prove or disprove your statements. And, again equally, there is no way for veterinarians to prove or disprove some of the statements in this article. (As an example, there has yet been any study performed that has PROVEN that vaccines cause some of the “reactions” listed in the article. Researchers are required to list all of the illnesses that a person/animal develops while on a medication, regardless if that medication actually caused it or not. Speaking of which, has anyone here read the package that comes with a bottle of aspirin? It apparently causes death, yet somehow it’s still on the market). Yes, there are bad apples in every field, I’ve known several of them myself. But most vets ARE educated about the above information and DO NOT blindly recommend things that they don’t deem necessary or at the very least strongly recommended based on a “risk/benefit” analysis. Surprisingly, the most difficult challenge in my day at the “office” is not trying to save a pet’s life. My most difficult challenge is trying to prove/disprove an owner of a false belief. And this has been proven and published is psychology journals – it is much easier to convince a person of a falsehood then to go back and try to correct that false belief, even when you show that person proof that the belief is indeed false. This is why no matter what I or Dr. Stephanie or any other vet says, articles like this will continue to persist and readers will continue to believe. Sigh.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 18, 2014 at 8:27 AM #

      With all due respect, if you’re waiting for the pharmaceutical companies to research vaccine reactions, you’ve got a long wait. They don’t even report adverse events to the CVB, so why on earth would they go looking for trouble? They’ve got a sweet deal going where 90% of vaccine reactions get reported to them directly and they are under no obligation to send them to the CVB. We’re being duped my friend, you and I both.

      Come on, you know it and I know it – there’s a huge amount of research showing vaccine damage in animals, from autism in primates to sudden arthritis symptoms in dogs. Dr Jean Dodds has also shown us that vaccine cause hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism. How much more proof do you need? So not every point on that list is proven yet. Surely, there’s enough for you to think there might be some inherent danger in vaccination. Especially in light of the fact that there has never been one scientific study showing the need to revaccinate but several over the years, with every major biogal, showing that it only takes one core vaccine to protect an animal for life. Shame on you for calling this article a falsehood and shame on you for spending so much of your day convincing people to ignore research and fact, instead of taking that time to do something more productive like educating yourself, and your clients, on immunology. Not vaccinology, but immunology. Vets these days seem to think the two are synonymous and that’s a serious problem. You’re turning your back on pet owners. You’re letting us down. You can do better; just open your mind. It will sting a little to admit you’re wrong, but you are wrong – deadly wrong – when you state there is no way to prove my statements. They are not opinion, they are the summary of four decades of research, which I will gladly share with you if you email me privately. ~ Dana

    • Alison February 26, 2014 at 6:27 PM #

      Ouch again!
      I can access the information on the aspirin from the leaflet but how many vets let you read the leaflet on the vaccines, NEVER. Could always access on the Merck site but they’ve closed that now. They don’t want you to know.
      If the vet won’t let you read the leaflet, walk away

      • Dr. S February 27, 2014 at 8:56 PM #

        the merck site is open and available for free… or else buy the book, or study vet med for however many years it takes to become one… it took most of us 8 years and some of us are still studying.

    • Bethany March 21, 2014 at 6:15 PM #

      Dr. Micah – you say “Sadly there is no way for you or anyone reading this to prove or disprove your statements. And again equally, there is no way for veterinarians to prove or disprove some of the statements in this article.” Yet your first sentence claims: “It’s articles like this that continue to spread false information”. Sorry, but that makes NO sense whatsoever! If the claims can’t be verified, how can you deem them ‘false information’??
      How about explaining why it is that you vets do not have to follow the AAHA or AMVA vaccine guidelines – and many chose not to? How is it that you vets can chose to ignore vaccine labels that clearly state they are to be used for HEALTHY dogs (or cats) ONLY? How is it that you vets can chose to ignore vaccine labels that clearly state they should NOT be mixed with other vaccines? How is it you vets feel it okay to not inform pet owners of known vaccine risks prior to injecting those needles? What, exactly, does your oath to ‘do no harm’ refer to, anyway – - the pets, or your bank accounts???

  5. Debra February 17, 2014 at 1:42 AM #

    IF all you need are the basic core vaccines, please explain to me how 2 of my own cats contracted Distemper from a litter of kittens I brought home? My 5 year old Honey died and my 3 year old survived it Honey had 4 shots as a baby and went back yearly for two years before I stopped. Lucky was the same. BUT I have 2 other immuno suppressed that get YEARLY vaccines and they didn’t catch it. Honey is dead because I read BS like this and I almost lost Lucky.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 17, 2014 at 7:17 AM #

      Hi Debra
      Always run titers three weeks after a vaccination and that will tell you whether they worked or not. Unfortunately, when shots are given in combination and in series, they are less effective. This is why we advocate monovalent vaccines and one and done. A study in dogs by Vanguard showed that 100% of puppies vaccinated once at 12 weeks of age were protected, but only 80% of those vaccinated twice with the second vaccine at 12 weeks were protected. Vaccinating on a better schedule and using titer testing could have saved your cats – not necessarily more vaccines.

    • Sue Ritter February 19, 2014 at 1:16 PM #

      You cat was over vaccinated and her immune system was compromised by too many vaccines. Check the research. More vaccines equals less immunity.

    • Michelle February 22, 2014 at 6:58 PM #

      Whoa whoa whoa!!! You’re trying to tell us that vaccines cause Autism in primates?!?! Don’t tell me you also believe they’re the cause in humans too!

      I hate to break it to you, But Andrew Wakefield’s “findings” were shortly thereafter found to be ill done, with a poor sample size. His license was even revoked. Vaccines don’t cause autism, and quite frankly, after reading such a close minded, and conspiracy theorist statement, I have a hard time believing anything else you’ve written.

      Many vaccines can last the lifetime of the dog. However are still required by the government. Such as taking a dog across the Canadian/US borders. If that’s not a necessity for you, I’d suggest taking your dog in for a blood titre test. This measures the amount of antibodies left in a dog’s immune system. If the levels are above a certain number, they’re fine. If they’re below the thresh hold, you get the dog revaccinated.

      • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 23, 2014 at 7:58 AM #

        There are many researchers who have shown a correlation between autism symptoms and vaccination. This has nothing to do with Wakefield.
        Where is the conspiracy? Vets have known for forty years that vaccines last the life of the animal. They continue to vaccinate every year or every three years out of either ignorance or greed. That’s not a conspiracy it’s the truth and that’s why this magazine is here – because vets aren’t changing and somebody needs to make pet owners aware of it.

  6. Lena McCullough, DVM February 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM #

    Here’s a little addition to your article about how we are courted in vet school. All my material is licensed creative commons so feel free to share if it is helpful (just link back if you do).
    http://pathwithpaws.com/blog/2014/02/16/we-are-bought-young-but-we-can-change-how-the-veterinary-community-is-courted/

  7. Julian February 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM #

    I had a two year old Yorkie whom I took in for a rabies vaccine. She was given the three year dose. Poor Edie was so stiff she couldn’t walk for two days and within a week she had a seizure and died. The vet. took no responsibility and I have not vaccinated any of my dogs since. The loss of this Dog absolutely broke my heart. My next Yorkie (her lived until he was 12, dying of Cushing’s Disease which vaccines have no bearing on. I have Edie’s grand son who is seven and has never had a vaccine in his life and he is a healthy and happy dog.

    • sharon February 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM #

      I also had a yorkie and my vet continued to send me post cards stating that he needed his rabies shot he was just over 9 months old My vet decided he also needed a kennel cough shot. Within a half hour he had a reaction and back to the vet We were told it was a common reaction and he would be fine. Within 2 hrs. We were back again for after hr emergency care again we were told that another shot to wake him was all he needed We were told to keep rubbing him and waking his frail 3 lb body! By the end of the evening he laid dead in my husbands arms as tears streamed down both of our cheeks The vet claimed to be up for 2 nights reading to find out what he did that may be wrong /// where do we start // by requiring shots to be done when they were not necessary I would think!!!!!!!

  8. Andrea February 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM #

    I know a woman whose 12 wk old Golden Retriever puppy died the day he received vaccinations. This was in 2013, north of Toronto. A friend’s 2 yr old horse also foundered (serious, severe condition that causes varying degree of detachment of the bone within the hoof wall) after vaccination. Her temperament was nasty, aggressive for no reason as a young age. The owner had to euthanize her at 2 yrs old due to the hoof problem (which happens for various reasons, one being toxins overloading the body) and change in nature. These are just two first hand accounts that I personally know of.

  9. S February 15, 2014 at 7:57 PM #

    I had a dog from birth through to age 17, no vaccines and a mostly raw diet. She was healthy & happy. Before she was put to sleep I bought a puppy & felt pushed into giving her the recommended vaccines on an early vet check up that the breeder had booked. That same day the puppy almost died, she was limp & lethargic, wouldn’t eat her food, thankfully she pulled through but from then on I haven’t followed through with any more.

  10. Annie Elizabeth February 15, 2014 at 7:45 PM #

    Also, an additional question: could you please point me towards your references for vet schools’ immunology curriculum being provided by pharmaceutical companies?

  11. Annie Elizabeth February 15, 2014 at 7:43 PM #

    It is not clear to me from this article if you have spoken personally with Dr. Schultz or if you are only quoting from his articles. Could you clarify this point? Also, as I think others have pointed out, references (in a complete form such as one used by the journals that publish these articles) would really help me to find the articles so that I can review them to educate myself. I think that these complete references would also help to make your article seem more legitimate to the people who are questioning you. I would especially be interested in the complete reference for the articles where Dr. Schultz says that all immunity to viruses is lifelong and the data that proves all titers are protective. Thank you.

    • Joyce February 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM #

      Why don’t you do your own homework ? Dr. Schultz work is all over the internet.

  12. Erin February 15, 2014 at 6:52 PM #

    Well I agree to disagree. Common issues – none.. Acute reactions VERY rare , intermediate reactions well less than 2 a year. This is based on thousands of vaccines. Proof re duration. Well. go talk to the FDA,. we have proof for 3 years. No one has paid for the 5 or 7 year study. I find this post very misleading and not very based on data. I am now worried about more out breaks of Parvo, Distemper, and even Rabies. If you have ever seen , owned a dog that died of any of these diseases you will be for vaccinating. I agree re cat sarcomas and the vets have done major changes re protocol at least 15 years ago.. I love titers. Many people wont spend the money on titers and go without vaccinating,.

    Grow some common sense. Everyone else should too. Assess AT RISK, , asses the good and bad,.. in asessing the bad from diseases on posts like these i never hear about how my dog died of Parvo ,.what it looked like or Distemper or Rabies.. REALLY ?? give a balance of opinion. Lets see some pictures of dogs dying of these diseases.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM #

      Hi Erin

      Let me share a quick story with you. I have a veterinary scientist friend who was involved in reporting four separate lepto vaccine reactions. Did you know that these reports don’t go directly to the FDA? They go to the vaccine manufacturers and it’s up to them whether they pass them to the FDA or not. That’s how messed up the reporting system is. So anyway, this vet managed to procure all of the lepto vaccine reaction reports passed to the FDA from the FOI act and do you know what? NONE of his reports were in there. Not one.

      Don’t be so sure that the risk of vaccination is as low as you think it to be. It is vastly and tragically under-reported.

      • Rebecca Rice February 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM #

        The vet can report directly to FDA if he so chooses. FDA will, of course, pass those along to the manufacturer, because it’s the manufacturer who needs to know what is going on with his product. The general public can report what they think is an adverse reaction to FDA if they want. Of course, the difficulty with those two actions is that the manufacturer only gets what was reported, and if contact information isn’t provided, very little can be done with the information because there is insufficient detail. “My dog got your vaccine and died” is generally going to be flagged as an “ok, we’ll flag this and see if there is a trend” by the manufacturer, because you have no way of knowing if the dog got your vaccine (and not some different one), whether it was dosed correctly, whether there were confounding genetic factors, if the dog was ill with something else at the time, etc.

    • lara m. runger February 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM #

      there is currently a 5 and 7 year rabies immunity hallenge study being conducted (per dr. jean dodds)

    • Janet February 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM #

      My cat of 21 years only had 2 years of shots. She became an indoor only cat. Same as my 12 year old cat that is still with me and healthy as a kitten. I only give rabies after the first year shots now. I worked for a Vet for several years. I also know that the rabies vaccine lasts 24 months or more. It’s a fact.
      I also lost my 10 year old Aussie who was fine until he was given Trifexis. Died in 3 days. I now give my other 3 dogs the ProHeart 6 injection. I would rather deal with fleas than lose my beloved family members. I can’t prove Trifexis was the cause, because a necropsy is too expensive and I had already spent $2000 trying to save him in Vet bills.
      I have seen first hand numerous pets go down immediately after a vaccination.
      This can go along with the human vaccination controversy. Do they cause Autism? Will you chance that with your child?
      I suggest you all do your own research. But I agree with this article.

      • Bev February 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM #

        I agree with you totally – a vet gave my dogs Trifexis – all 8 of them – and all 8 got sick – hair – all lost weight, were just plain sick – luckily they got better-I put them on a boiled chicken breast and rice with the water from the boiled chicken over the rice and fresh drinking water diet for several days and that helped. I will not go back to that vet ever and have also told several friends not to go to his clinic either. Our new Vet center has literature for Trifexis . I told him about the problem we had but he just seemed to poopoo it. He more or less indicated that maybe just an allergy in my dogs – hmmmmmm all 8? I don’t think so. All 8 are dachshunds-pure bred but not registered.
        We now feed them Nutro natural potato turkey no grain dry food with Blue Buffalo (variety of flavors) mixed in with it and have had them on this for almost 3 years – they are thriving.
        We do not use any flea meds at all.
        Trifexis should be banned!

    • Lila February 17, 2014 at 12:08 AM #

      Hello Erin,
      I am not trying to attack you and your free to your own opinion but next time you post your opinion please do so politely, and refrain from calling people assess directly or indirectly, and telling people to grow commen sense it is just rude and makes people angered and frustrated. I respect your opinion but here is mine.

      My parents and I had a dog when I was younger that only had the first round of vaccines. Rabies, lepto, and a few others as a pup. Eight years later our sweet girl got bit by a raccoon with rabies. But our old lady Mist Never got rabies. Three years later Mist died of Old Age. Not once had our girl been sick. Also eleven is an old age for Kuvasz which is an old Hungarian guard breed that weighs anywhere from 90 to 200 pounds in good weight. Mist was pure bred healthy strong girl. But now the Kuvasz are developing a condition called PLE. This causes the dogs not to be able to absorb proteins as they are supposed to, and the dogs passing this down are dogs that were vaccinated a lot and on the “prescription diets” sold in vet clinics. This Killed one of our dogs whom had PLE and led to us making the hard decision not to put one of our dogs through Kemo for Stage Five Lymphoma, a cancer in the lymph nodes. If he had not had the chance of having PLE we might have given him kemo but we didn’t want to see him waste away of PLE after putting him through kemo. If this is not enough reason for you to question the truth of the statement Every 3 years then I don’t know what will. As for Parvo and Distemper most of the time if a dog does contract these then their owners are able to have them treated and the pet survives. Out of the Sixteen cases of parvo that have come into the vet clinic my mom works as a receptionist at One has died and that was a Premature Puppy. Happy. Yes that pup died. Yes the owners were sad. That puppy however would not have made it anyway as the lungs and heart were deformed. So yes dogs do Sometimes die of sickness. Death is apart of life and if we have a way to supposedly prevent sickness then why does it Not Work sometimes? Commen sense which you are telling us to grow tells me it never worked in the first place.

      • Scott February 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM #

        Um, she is saying “assess”, as in “evaluate”. Not “asses”.

  13. Kay W. February 15, 2014 at 6:16 PM #

    I have an 11 year old dog that has not been vaccinated since he was 16 weeks old. As a puppy he had distemper & parvovirus vaccines given separately, two of each. Then rabies at a much later date. When I had him titer tested last month for distemper & parvovirus both titers came back as very good level. He is not the first dog that I have tested at an advanced age, with the same result. And yes I feed a raw diet but that’s a whole other issue.

  14. M February 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM #

    I am so lucky with my vet. She doesn’t push vacc’s. I pretty much only do rabies after the core vaccines. 3yr rabies vacc. We argued over rattlesnake virus on my SAR dog-she said it hadnt been around long enough as far as long term side effects. She did it anyway cuz we are out in snake heaven a lot. She told me she has never seen. Parvo in a PROPERLY core vaccinated dog. Doesnt even recommend it. Corona virus too. Supports raw feeding too, and that’s so rare.

    Vets work for us, and research is ever developing. And they don’t always keep up with it. Its up to pet owners to do research on what we do with our pets.

    My newest SAR dog got a vasectomy rather than a regular neuter. When I gave my vet the info about the recent research into the effects of losing sex hormones too young, she said she had just been to an AVMA conference on spay neuter last year and nothing about what I had shown her had been mentioned even as a footnote. She was appalled.

    I think most vets really do try but its hard to break away from the norm. And you can’t expect your vet to be an expert in everything.

    I do wish this article had the scientific research added directly to it. It would have more impact. For people wanting to discuss vaccination changes with their vet, this article isn’t scientific enough I think.

      • Z February 15, 2014 at 4:27 PM #

        Just so I understand what is going on here, because perhaps I am mistaken…

        Your “science” is an article published and branded by your magazine, that you have taken bits and pieces out of an actual challenge study and allude to taking standards set aside from certain studies and journals (presumably) and mention that this is the basis of a revision to a standards task force mentioned in a JAHAA journal over ten years ago? Am I understanding that correctly?

        Do you even have reference in your articles to actual studies or a link to this JAHAA article that would be freely accessible to the general public? Because taking bits and pieces from studies and not providing a reference to a whole study tends to look a lot like not telling the whole truth, or bending the truth. Is this not, by not giving proper reference, a form of plagiarism as well? Does this not distort the trust that your readers would come to expect of you in writing a complete and honest article on such an important issue such as vaccination?

        Would you be willing to provide actual references, preferably something done in the last ten years as to give your article merit? I understand it may be hard to find current analysis of such a huge and broad subject such as vaccination – especially when there are so many different kinds and combinations of vaccine.

        Your main article and your linked “Science” article also don’t talk about if any of these vaccines are killed, attenuated, or otherwise different from each other. Does this not make a difference? Could you provide evidence that there is indeed no difference?

        It isn’t in the article itself that is of poor value – your thoughts and opinion based on the research you did may indeed be correct. But by not giving proper evidence and just alluding to your scientific proof, I am afraid you may just be spoon feeding the pertinent information to prove your case only. What if you missed something? Would your fear of providing the proper references and allowing people to do their own investigating and forming their own conclusion be of detriment to you or your article?

        I fully expect you and your colleagues to either ignore or have a very negative reaction to this message. Maybe even erase it. But that still does not change the fact you are hindering the point of this article, pet safety in regards to vaccinations, with either your inappropriate references or just the sheer lack of professionalism in being to lazy to link them.

        • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 4:52 PM #

          Our science is an article written by us that has excerpts from two of Dr Schultz’s important research papers. Open the article, look at the research, and if you want more, then pay to download the entire studies, like we did. It is illegal to share copyright material, so we cannot post the entire study.

          Dr Schultz has proven 7 year or greater DOI with all of the major vaccines, recombinant or otherwise. I don’t believe there are many killed core vaccines left these days because of the dangers of the stabilizers, but back when they were more popular, he tested those as well. One of his more recent projects I believe was with Merck and their newer distemper vaccine. It was found to be so effective that a puppy could be exposed to distemper before vaccination, and still be protected. If you would like to see Dr Schultz explain this on camera, here you are: https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/vet-distemper-dog/

          Dana

          • Z February 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM #

            First off, thank you for your reply. I did indeed open the article, looked at some charts you provided from a still as of yet unnamed study (Suddenly now 2 studies?) and am looking for more, just as I was in when I made my first comment. There is no reference other than your word to these studies. Give me some titles I can at least look for. As a reader, help me come to my own decision. Point me in the right direction.

          • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 7:06 PM #

            Z,

            Age and Long-term Protective Immunity in Dogs and Cats
            R. D. Schultz, B. Thiel, E. Mukhtar, P. Sharp and L. J. Larson
            Department of Pathobiological Sciences, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, Wisconsin, USA J. Comp. Path. 2010, Vol. 142, S102eS108

            This is a very nice summary of his decades of work that you can order from Science Direct. This is one of the papers we quote from in that article.

          • Melissa February 17, 2014 at 5:19 PM #

            So these claims exist from a study done by one doctor, there are no peer-studies, no corroborating studies, just this one?

          • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM #

            Yes, isn’t it sad that with all the tens of thousands of vets jabbing pets continually, there is only one researcher who took the time to actually think and then measure duration of immunity. It makes me weep for the profession. Oh, and there are corroborating studies and they are peer-reviewed, valid and reliable.

        • Giacomo Fiamingo February 15, 2014 at 6:21 PM #

          I am a reader who finds it entirely acceptable to be spoon feed pertinent information provided by a publication who’s contentions support only their case only. I am neither a trained Vet, immunologist or someone who has even taken a class in how to properly potty train my dog. What I am is a reader who trust the information that I receive from Dogs Naturally. I certainly find the information to be more trustworthy then the completely biased, money motivated advice that I receive from my former animal hospital/boutique, day spa & pet resort that used to be my Vet. After all, someone has to pay for his multi-million dollar expansion. I’m sure that his acupuncturist/dog wisperer is costing him a pretty penny (I wish I was kidding). I cannot remember the last time that I walked out of the place for less than $150 “per tail” (and I have a few). They haven’t seen a test or vaccination too unimportant or unnecessary.
          That filtered information is EXACTLY why I come here in the first place. Normal, intelligent people navigate their way through life by finding sources of information that pass the “smell test”. I know what motivates the good people of Dogs Naturally. Maybe when I retire I will take the time to pour over the JAHAA journals and studies in order to draw my own conclusions on this subject. I will then apply that to a new set of pups. The ones that I have now will be long dead. You’ve got to trust someone. I’ll take my chances here. Perhaps I am mistaken but the tone of your comments might cause one to question just what or who motivates you. By the way Z, I used my real name when I comment.

  15. Destiny February 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM #

    None of this surprises me in the least because the same is being done with humans as well.

    • Z February 15, 2014 at 7:08 PM #

      Thank you for your concern about me, Gaicomo. We obviously have differing methods as to processing information and on differing levels. I am glad you trust the writers of this and other articles here. I however prefer to do my own research, so I can be fully informed and come to my own decision on such a matter as vaccination of my pets. I find it both fascinating and confusing, hence my search for knowledge. Sadly, this article does not let me do that, and either by omission or laziness on the writer’s part, leaves out information which I desire. Hence my search.

      I am also flattered you question my motivations, as if I were behind something important. As you seem to have alluded to, perhaps it’s best not to question things and just accept what anyone will write, as truth.

      And enjoy using your real name online! It is definitely one I am sure full of heritage and to be proud of.

  16. My Info February 15, 2014 at 3:11 PM #

    I understand and wholly believe that for whatever reasons, vets over-vaccinate our fur-kids. But what about the city/county laws? I live in San Diego, Ca. In San Diego, a person is REQUIRED, by law, to register their pet and to have them vaccinated every 1-3 years. Or say for instance in an emergency situation where we may need to take our pet to a vet that is not our regular vet. If we dont have his shot records available, he will not be treated unless they vaccinate him. I wish things were as black and white as the article proposes. Its not.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM #

      Rabies is the only vaccine required by law.

      • Alice W. February 17, 2014 at 12:22 AM #

        And do you have your dog/s vaccinated for rabies every year or so? I have had dogs most all my life and never had any problems with them and the shots except when I have him vaccinated against the kennel cough he drools and coughs for a day or so and then he is at his usual self. I want to ask you what you think of the “Heart Guard vs The heart guard vaccination every 6 mos./each”?

      • Maryann Larssen February 17, 2014 at 4:54 AM #

        Yes that’s true & we obey the law. However, this law should be amended as well to fit in the 21st Century. Why is it that housecats or old dogs, or dogs without teeth (like our 8 yr old rescue Yorkie) need to have rabies shots?
        I don’t mean to insult you but you, too, are selling magazines….

    • Tara February 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM #

      Only healthy animals are supposed to be vaccinated and the info paper that comes with the vaccine will say that. Personally, I don’t vaccinate my dog (she came vaccinated through the rescue I adopted her from) and my plan in an emergency situation is to use that vaccine info paper to explain why my dog cannot be vaccinated.

      We always have to prepare for the worst!

  17. Amy February 15, 2014 at 3:01 PM #

    I firmly believe that my Golden’s seizures last year were caused by his vaccinations, which is why he’ll never receive another. His first seizure was March 16, just 11 days after his shots. At the time, he was 6 years old (he turned 7 in July of last year) and had never had a seizure before. His second seizure was May 30. Both were grand mal, loss of bowel and bladder control; the works. He may have had a small one July 20, but that could also have been me over-reacting to something that wasn’t actually there and being paranoid and over-vigilant. He hasn’t had one since.
    My aunt had a yellow lab who was guaranteed to follow a similar pattern of shots followed by seizures followed by latency, inject and repeat. Her vet refused to admit it could be due to the shots, even though it occurred every year like clockwork until she, too, refused to get them anymore.
    In canine epilepsy groups/forums and on canine epilepsy pages, I’ve read COUNTLESS stories from dog owners who report the same thing. I mentioned it to my vet (whom I hold in overall high regard) and he refused to even entertain the notion. My boy’s due for some of his shots in 3 weeks, so I imagine I’m going to have a battle on my hands but I’m NOT giving in.
    I realize the systems of humans versus animals vary in a myriad of ways, but I don’t see how they can be so different that dogs and cats need boosters annually (or every 2 or 3 years, depending on which vet you talk to) when we live longer lives many-fold and don’t need regular boosters for our vaccinations. My Golden will be 8 in July; I’m sure he has sufficient immunity by now. Sadly, this means I’ll never be able to board or kennel him again, but I’m not putting him (or myself) through that horrifying experience again just so I can go on the occasional vacation.
    An additional anecdote. My mother’s black lab was perfectly healthy until he was about 8 years old. He went in for his shots. Within 2 days, his face was swollen and his bottom eyelids drooping like a bloodhound’s. Eventually the swelling went down, and one eye went basically back to normal. The other eye, however, was permanently droopy and soon started filling up with a disgusting, yellow-ish green mucus. They (my mom and her vet) tried clearing that eye up as if it was an infection, but nothing ever worked. His eye was like that for the last 2 years of his life. My mom had to clean it daily, and it was repulsive. It wasn’t long before he was blind in that eye. So once again a perfectly healthy dog walks into the vet’s, gets his shots, and 2 days later is forever changed. Would the vet admit it might have been the shots? Of course not. But she could also never come up with an alternative suggestion as to what was wrong and what might have caused it.

  18. Laurie f February 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM #

    In Nov. 2001, I drove to a neighbouring state to get an 8 month old kitten, siamese/angora. He had basic shots, at the appropriate time, I finished his 1st year of shots and had him neutered. He has not received any other shots since and he is now 12 1/2 years old and does wonderful! He is an indoor cat and has gotten out 3 times in his life, being gone several days at a time. He has never had problems or been sick. I do not think the shots are necessary every year. Or even 3 years. Especially if the pet is indoors most of the time. My 2 dogs were due for shots also, yes I received the post cards from the vet, I have not taken them in. Guess what? They are healthy and alive. Go figure.

  19. Betty February 15, 2014 at 2:04 PM #

    It is good to get information. Just like the drugs advertised on TV. There are long term effects of drugs. there is also controversy over immunizing children. read up, its good medicine. A website that focuses on natural is not going to produce articles that give your pets unnatural meds or food. If you want to read the other side go to the sites that report that. It is no different than television. What the broadcast owners believe is what you will see. Personally I like researching both sides of an issue. And since I am not educated in this I research and make the best decision I can for my pet because I am the one that lives with the decisions I make, not the people making their viewpoints. So go research and make your decision, but you need not be so mean to others just because you do not believe in it. Just don’t read it.

  20. Susana February 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM #

    I had my Westie vaccinated with lepto and she became paralyzed after a couple hours wouldn’t move or eat, just had my other Westie vaccinated with distemper and his allergies are back severe flare ups and chewing! I am not vaccinating anymore I will just do the rabies which is requiered bylaw!

  21. Laura February 15, 2014 at 1:05 PM #

    This article is very poorly written with no real thought to both sides of the argument and with sweeping statement that have not been backed up (for example the common side affects of vaccines but no statistics or proof). So many of the sentences when you read them you want to say “how do you know that” and the author does not cite any proof – just lots of comments to sway opinion from someone that obviously does not like vets. I say good luck when you go crawling to a vet with your new puppy that is dying from parvovirus (seen daily by veterinarians) and watch them work 24/7 to try their very best to save it…maybe then you will say thank you (or probably not).

    • Kay February 15, 2014 at 2:04 PM #

      There is plenty of research done by Dr. Schultz at UW-Madison. And if you read the recommendations, puppy shots are recommended to build the immunity – followed by 1 booster. The point being that once immunity is there you don’t need to rebuild it. I love my vet but i do my own research – my vet needs to pay the rent and salaries and vaccinations are a big part of that income. They all sell Science Diet which is a crappy food – now why is that? Do your homework Laura and you will be surprised. meanwhile do the right thing for your dogs …and cats.

    • E.A. Jackson February 15, 2014 at 2:41 PM #

      Just wondering if you know the origin of Parvo Virus in dogs, Laura?

      • Rachel February 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM #

        And how bad it was? Parvovirus came from cats and jumped species. The only reason dogs survived was the vaccine, you awesome intelligent people. If not, dogs would not be here…if you don’t know what Parvo can do, why don’t you ask a friend or neighbor whose puppy or dog died of it? It’s not a one in a million type DRUG reaction, it is a highly FATAL virus that dogs and puppies easily acquire and the virus itself lives in an environment for 6 months to 2 years. Why not spread THAT piece of info? It is highly contagious and causes vomiting, diarrhea, no appetite, PAIN, and subsequently DEATH in those dogs and puppies who cannot survive the ATTACK on their immune systems that Parvo causes. Parvo is horrible and those who haven’t seen as dog or puppy succumb to it do not have any ground to stand on.

        And for those wonderfully smart people with educations who wrote this article, Rabies is required by LAW. But, it can and does cause more vaccine reactions than most vaccines. Explanation? Please do not post one of your “arguments” lol. Nothing you “say” has any relevance to those you actually know what they are talking about. If you want accurate and informative data, try contacting the USDA or the CDC. I absolutely love how those who don’t agree with this article’s line of thinking are immediately branded a vet or a vet tech. How about just a highly educated, AWARE person who thinks these blogs are a load of, well, you know. Have fun responding lol!!!

  22. brenda miller February 15, 2014 at 12:26 PM #

    I had a Pit last Friday she was great normal she had a lump on her side and found out it was Breast Cancer. But that morning she was fine took her out went to potty never had a problem . Made a Doctor appointment knowing she had to have it removed. Well they gave her a /Rabie shot and what ever was in that shot killed my dog. She was due for Sugury the 18 she didn;t make it 3 days. I mean she was herself until they gave her thias shot I wish i would of never allowed them to do it. She stop eating for 4 days and couldn;t keep her water down.She had 2 Seziures that day I took her to the vets as soon as possible. Well the guy that examiner her ran a Blod test right than and there the lady didn;t that Friday. She is at fault but the Man called and told me what was going on well a hour later he called and said she pass went into a full blown sezuire. I blame this lady with Breast cancer she should of never give her that rabie shot she would still be living. . I hate this Vet lady and hope something she loves losing something she really loves its her fault. My dog is dead becasue of her. Vetsa are killing animals and something should be done. I haven;t ate nor slept just cry I want my baby back she was my baby every where i went she followed she was attack to me and now all I have is a big void in my Heart. R.I..P SAdie Mommy loves you….

  23. ann February 15, 2014 at 11:53 AM #

    These are the kind of articles that lead to killing pets, not by the hand of vets but by uneducated breeders that supply incorrect information to power owners. The vaccine company’s recommended to vacate every year in your pets best intrest. Every pet owner has options to do titers on their pets to see if the vaccine is needed. I have seen titers done where the vaccine lasts only for a year and I have seen titers done where the vaccine lasts for 7 years. Sadly, most pets owners are to cheap to pay for these tests. Somewhere along the way owning a pet because a right and not a privilege. So it’s a heck of a lot easier for in educated bloggers to blame vets. I dare you Kathy, to take care of countless suffering puppies dying of parvo for days just to have to euthanize them in the end. They wouldn’t have to go through that if bloggers like you would stop with this anti vaccine bs.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM #

      Actually Ann, the vaccine manufacturers and in the process of changing all vaccine labels to three years, not annual. Vaccines were originally given annually because that’s the original duration of study the vaccine manufacturers did on them. After Dr Schultz showed that the likely duration of immunity was at least 7 years, the vaccine manufacturers decided to change their labels. We are not anti-vaccine. We are anti unnecessary vaccines.

    • Suzanne February 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM #

      Ann.. I think the only thing actually killing pets is how you and others clearly refuse to educate yourself before you speak. THANK GOD articles like this exist so that I DON’T have to believe the advice you are clearly giving either because you are a vet or a vet tech. If you don’t believe this article I challenge you to find more research. Dr. Karen Becker, a holistic vet from Illinois would be a great resource. What you are forgetting here is that holistic vets have even MORE training than a typical mainstream vet who goes to a vet school sponsored by companies like Science Diet. Pretty much the worst pet food on the market. Just like traditional mainstream doctors, traditional mainstream vets are in the business of making money!! They make money… tons of it from unsuspecting, uneducated pet owners by pulling at their heart strings and making them believe that terrible prescription diet LOADED in ground corn, wheat, soy and by-products, yearly vaccines, heart worm, and flea and tick preventatives are the only way to go! Without the sale of these products just how much money is that vet losing every year?

      Thank you Dogs Naturally Magazine and Dr. Schultz for opening our eyes. None of my pets will ever receive another vaccine except for rabies every 7 years.

  24. Deb E February 15, 2014 at 9:24 AM #

    I find it hard to attempt a “civil discussion” when the start of the discussion is a very sensational statement lambasting all vets & labeling us as animal hating, money grubbing, uneducated, evil people with no conscience at all. I graduated over 30 years ago – I don’t consider myself a sell out to pharmaceutical companies or food companies. I read their information just as I read yours. And I make an educated opinion, which varies with each individual animal & its lifestyle, as to what is appropriate care. The owner (not the guardian – you really don’t want to go there or you are potentially facing losing control of your own animals) then decides what to do.
    When I graduated I was told I would never see a clinical case of distemper. That is no longer true. I worked through the big parvo outbreak. When you pile up dead dogs like cordwood despite all of the supportive care you could manage, it does affect you.
    People who do not vaccinate at all depend on “herd immunity”. they count on the fact that all the other animals are vaccinated & wont’ spread the illness (other than potentially during a short period with a MLV vaccine).
    Are some pets over vaccinated & have they been in the past? Yes. But even Dr Schultz has now said that 5 yrs is the max for rabies- not the 7 he was hoping for & that was a goal of the Rabies challenge Fund. Yes – amazing, I am a vet who knows about & has supported the Rabies Challenge.
    So please – drop the sensationalism. You will educate many more people by simply sticking to facts & not slandering an entire profession.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM #

      Hi Deb

      I don’t believe Dr Schultz has recanted his position on 7 years DOI for rabies. I think you might be confused by the fact that the rabies challenge fund is at the 5 year mark.

      As for our headlines, we want people to read this information and headlines are the most important thing to make that happen. So we like to use headlines that grab people’s attention and then they can decide whether the article is for them or not. We want as many pet owners to be aware of this as possible but we first need their attention. So you can choose the type of headline you would like to use on your own site, and we’ll continue to use the ones that make us the busiest pet magazine website in the world.

      Finally, I’d like to speak to your comment that animals are unable to form immunity without vaccination. The original strain of that deadly parvovirus you mention is still in the environment and current vaccinations don’t cover that strain. This is what true herd immunity is – herd immunity, by definition, is naturally acquired, not vaccine induced. That original strain of parvovirus is still out there, there is no current vaccine to cover it, gets dogs rarely get any symptoms from it. THAT is true herd immunity.

      Dana

    • kathy February 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM #

      Wow….you really hate vets don’t you! This article and several others that you’ve written do nothing but criticize vets as money grabbers! What’s your education? I see a very short bio and that you breed dogs, is that the extent of your education? Because for you to repeatedly criticize the vet profession is ignorant. Many of your comments are incorrect and when you quote various “studies” you do not indicate pertinent information like how many animals were included in the study. This is a useless website with biased and incorrect information. And you’re the Editor in Chief of this site…so I guess what that really means is you can post whatever biased information you want here and no one stops you??

      • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 15, 2014 at 11:06 AM #

        Hi Kathy

        As long as vets continue to over-vaccinate our pets, when they’ve known for nearly 40 years that the core vaccines last 7 years or longer in the majority of animals, I’ll continue to call them out and criticize their vaccination schedules. It’s that simple. These studies have been done over four decades on thousands of animals. They’ve been repeated with both challenge and serology, will all of the major veterinary vaccines. You only need to spend the money to purchase Dr Schultz’s research and papers to know this.

        Dogs Naturally Magazine, the actual magazine, is written and endorsed by leading holistic veterinarians. It’s the largest homeopathic publication in the world. Many of our articles are written by veterinarians. We have a partnership with the Academy of Homeopathic Veterinarians.

        Dana

    • Y February 15, 2014 at 12:12 PM #

      I like to know if anyone could confirm or deny that the vaccine is actually current enough to be effective to the current rabies and distemper or what ever it is you are immunizing against, and if the diseases have mutated and the vaccine is really ineffective, what about the natural immunity that the Dam and Sire carry that is in the off springs DNA automatically.

    • Wendy R February 15, 2014 at 3:32 PM #

      Actually in conjunction with the 5 year test they looked at memory cell immunology and found all the dogs with no measurable titer has the memory cell immunity so would not require vaccination. Perhaps you should go to the Rabies Challenge site and read the whole article.

    • Wendy R February 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM #

      Plus they are doing a second study with a more recent vaccination that may prove to provide immunity for at least 7 years. The 5 year is just based on the original vaccine tested and again, these dogs were shown to have memory cell immunity.

    • Cari February 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM #

      Deb,

      I just wanted to leave my opinion to your comment, regarding the perspective you seem to have received about the overall hatred about veterinarians.

      I did not get that from this article. The only thing I got regarding veterinarians was that, like all doctors out there, you need to be picky about who you choose to care for the health of your animals. There ARE doctors out there who only care about how much money they make by pushing products that could do more harm than good to their patients. I can only assume there are many veterinarians out there who do the same. I’ve experienced both types of doctors, and I have experienced both types of veterinarians. Before I did more research on healthy diets for my pets, my veterinarian told me one product was great for my pet. Come to find out, 2 out of 3 of my cats died within years of putting them on those diets. From cancer. Prior to that, every animal I ever had lived a long and healthy life… and died from old age, nothing more. They ate the diets I prepared for them. I know I cannot say this diet recommended by my veterinarian was the cause, because it was years later. However, I do find it suspicious. I no longer feed my pets any prescription diets. I do my own research and come to my own conclusions. They stay at a healthy weight, do not have gastrointestinal issues, have a good amount of energy and no other side effects that generally follow a poor diet. Both cats that died, however, had become quite overweight, lethargic, and generally grumpy. One of them had their teeth go rotten and began throwing up daily, come to find out he had a massive tumor around his heart. The other could barely keep food down and had constant diarrhea. He was a large cat, his healthy weight was around 12 lbs. Since he began overweight, he was around 15 lbs… he dropped down to 6 lbs before he died. They were fed the recommended allotment as is listed on the bag per day. Even on the healthy weight food… they didn’t lose anything.

      My point is that I do believe there are veterinarians out there who care more about making money than their methods in doing so… no matter who it hurts. Sure, my personal situation could be blamed on something else. I have no hardcore proof this food caused those problems. Only my own experiences and conclusions I drew from all my pets overall behavior and health depending on their diets. It does make me think twice about which veterinarians I deal with. I’m glad it does. I’d prefer to visit 15 veterinarians to find one that I feel truly cares about my pets. I know they’re out there. I know the greedy ones are out there as well.

      The only impression I got from this article was that the author also believed in picking the RIGHT veterinarian to care for your pets. Not EVERY veterinarian out there cares as much as you seem to. Every single one of us will come across good and bad people. Veterinarians are not excluded from that.

      I did, however, see the passion in what you wrote. I could tell you care very much about what you do.

  25. Julia February 15, 2014 at 9:13 AM #

    The statement in this article about veterinary malpractice is incorrect.

    Veterinary malpractice litigation predates human medical malpractice litigation.

    Otherwise I enjoyed the article – I just wish it cited more studies.

    • Betty February 15, 2014 at 2:00 PM #

      the only problem with malpractice is the value of the pet (unless a show pet) is still equal to the cost of the property. pets are property,unlike medical malpractice, where a lawsuit gives you punitive damages. suing on a pet is like getting money for a lost book or stolen car etc. it is property. hardly worth the cost of suing.

  26. Michele February 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM #

    Excellent article, Dana! I hope this is read by pet owners who are not yet aware. Thank you for so concisely pulling together all the facets of this issue. Our pets deserve our advocacy. We are their voice.

  27. Pauline February 15, 2014 at 8:22 AM #

    Great article, I hope people will do the right thing for their pets and take notice! The. Vets are going to air on the side of profit so it’s up to each individual to take a stand for fido! Together we can change things!!

  28. Christen March 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM #

    I think this article is great. I think that people are completely brainwashed and just because the dog(s) cannot speak up and let us know if they feel sick doesn’t mean we can continue to pump them with unnecessary vaccines. For example; I had a very very bad reaction to the Gardasil Vaccine about 7 years ago. I lost 50% of my hair, and I was traumatized. Anyone notice that the commercial for this evil vaccine doesn’t air on TV anymore! Ask yourselves that! Thankfully with a change in diet, and a load of vitamins, it took me a little over a year to notice regrowth and now 7 years later my hair is STILL growing back! I am a woman. This was terrible! and all my Doctor could say was it was a coincidence!!!! I have switched 3 vets so far due to them telling me my dogs will die if I don’t get them vaccinated!! I then went to another who said that my dogs built immunity to the diseases so they don’t need the shots!!! Of course they don’t. The money spent on heartworm pills and the flee medicine is not good either. There are naturally ways to take care of animals the same way we take care of ourselves. I know someone who had dogs all his life. They lived to be 26 years old!!!! NO VACCINES!! and never was sick. He never visited a Vet!!!!!! Feed the dog proper food, fresh water and they will be fine!

    • Lovemyjake April 28, 2013 at 2:39 AM #

      please don’t just vaccinate because the vet says so.Ask them to draw a blood test titer for that vaccine.If it comes back elevated your dog is protected and your vet will then understand just how wise to them you are .My vet agreed with me completely regarding over vaccinating vets are today.Rabies is the only vaccine that can’t be skipped.Also never combine any vaccines alway alone weeks apart.Dr.Jean Dodd DMV always speaks about over vaccination on the Internet .She also posts an amazing vaccine protocol for every type of breed as well.If you send her an email with a question she will call you back!!!!!!!! She has helped me for years with the best possible advice.I wish she was on the east coast so I could use her as a vet best to all Jakesmom

      • Knittycat February 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM #

        A titer is a measure of circulating antibodies; while a high level of circulating antibodies can be an indicator of immunity, a low level of circulating antibodies does NOT indicate that an animal is not immune. The best use of a titer test is to show whether a vaccine produced an immunizing response – vaccinate, wait a month, and run a titer test. If the level of circulating antibodies shows a response to the vaccine, then you know the animal has immunized and never needs another vaccine for that particular pathogen.

        I do this with puppies. I vaccinate for distemper/parvo, then wait 3-4 weeks to run a titer. If the titer shows a “protective” level of antibodies, I never vaccinate that dog again. If the titer does not show a “protective” level of antibodies, then I vaccinate again and do another titer 3-4 weeks later.

        With dogs acquired as adults, I run a parvo/distemper titer. If the antibody level is “protective”, I don’t ever vaccinate that dog. If the antibody level is not “protective” then I give a single vaccine and don’t bother to titer a month later. In a healthy adult dog, a single vaccine should produce an immunizing response; a healthy adult dog who does not produce an immunizing response to a vaccine is a “non-responder” and will not immunize no matter how many vaccines it receives. I had this happen with a dog who’d been vaccinated for distemper/parvo when she was a sickly puppy. I ran a titer when she was 6 months old; parvo titer was sky high, she had a distemper titer but it was below “protective”. So we gave her just a distemper vaccine and re-titered a month later. Her antibody level hadn’t budged. There was no sense in revaccinating her – she didn’t respond to this “booster” and wouldn’t respond to any in the future, either. (It is likely however, despite the lack of a “protective” titer, her body would have produced a successful immune response to exposure to the distemper virus.)

  29. Sirius February 24, 2013 at 12:24 AM #

    I have an idea that might work better than writing ill-informed, lukewarm articles and uneducated replies on the internet about a topic you don’t understand. Hear me out here….

    Why don’t you offer up your dogs for a virus challenge study if you’re so interested in advancing this cause? I mean a lot of the problem is that there aren’t enough of those done so no we DON’T know what a protective titer is for a lot of the common animal diseases. So do it, put your money (literally, because you breed and sell puppies) where your mouth is: put out a call to all of your tinfoil hat vaccine paranoid friends, get their titers for rabies, parvo and distemper and put all of your dogs together in a room with a few rabid bats and raccoons, some dogs from WA infected with that emerging parvo strain that is affecting adult dogs, and a couple of distemper dogs. And let’s see which of your dogs die horrible deaths from these diseases, and which live. Then maybe we can repeat this every so often and get some real data going, and those nasty money grubbing veterinarians will believe us!!!

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 24, 2013 at 6:13 AM #

      Hi Sirius
      Naturally Rearing breeders conduct this field study every day. Many don’t vaccinate at all for the core vaccines and their dogs are protected. I’ve had a puppy with parvovirus personally. He recovered in 12 hours with the help of homeopathic and herbal support. Immunity does not have to come from a needle, natural immunity can and does happen otherwise every species would have been wiped off the face of the earth long ago. Having said that, the article advocates less vaccination, not necessarily no vaccination. We also don’t advocate breaking the law in regard to rabies vaccination. What we do advocate is the end to over vaccination. One vaccine is all that is necessary to protect an animal for life and the research backing this claim was made evident to vets in 1978 and has been repeated over and over again in the last 30 years. Please refer to our article Vets On Vaccines to see the many holistic vets who completely endorse the concepts in this article. After reading this, then you can decide if these vets are also ill informed and uneducated.

      • Karin February 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM #

        Very interested to know how you know that your puppy had parvo, and not just any other stomach flu??

    • Make the Elite eat GMO's March 29, 2013 at 12:43 PM #

      Sirius is a popular name for trolls (those spreading disinformation and confusion). They usually attack sites that are trying to help us all be more healthy and have more freedom. Probably employees of the same people who brought us GMO’s and immunizations. Apparently from all the angry messages on this article, he dialed up his cronies to add their voice!! (why would someone who BELIEVES in vaccines be searching for information on why they are not healthy?) Unless you think they all just “stumbled” upon this article.

      Thanks DNM for all the great articles!! My vet was very understanding when i said no to any more vaccines for my dogs (except Rabies). He even said he won’t personally take a flu shot since the first time he had one with a reaction. My daughter and I experienced the same problem and now both of us refuse flu shots. That experience is what started me looking into vaccine safety. After the recent H1N1 (human) vaccine troubles where they NEVER EVEN TESTED them before public use, it doesn’t surprise me at all that the manufactureres have done little research to prove animal vaccines need to be continually boosted. Unfortunately, the rabies law has us all trapped if we go in public places. Is there anything we can do to get the law changed to 5 years?
      Thanks again – keep up the good work, many of us are hearing your message.

    • Cari February 16, 2014 at 2:50 AM #

      I don’t understand why it is people respond with comments like this. You’re being a jerk by throwing out insults. Have you met the author? What basis do you have for throwing comments out there like “tinfoil hat vaccine paranoid friends”.

      Try leaving comments with well-prepared questions, answers, or opinions on the information presented… rather than spending time tossing around insults. You talk about writing ill-informed and uneducated replies… it seems to me you’re doing the same thing with most of your reply.

      It just boggles my mind that adults can’t communicate with others like adults anymore.

  30. Jacqueline February 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM #

    This article scares me because owners will actually stop vaccinating their pets as jump on this crazy wagon. I am a vet in a busy small animal practice. Our practice saw THREE adult dogs die of parvo virus this year. Not to mention several puppies that owners foolishly didn’t vaccinate, or only vaccinated once at 8 weeks. This area saw a horrible outbreak of parvo this year and IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED! I love the idea of doing titres on animals before their vaccines in adulthood, however, it is a complete lie that all dogs are either immune or they or not for life. I’ve had several dogs that are vaccinated at the same time as their housemate and come back with completely different titres, which may or may not be in the protective range. You can always voice your opinion about vaccines with your vet. They can go over the pros and cons of them and which are most important in your are and for your particular animal. If your vet doesn’t like this, find a different one.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 24, 2013 at 6:03 AM #

      Jacqueline, thanks for your feedback. As for the protective range, Dr Ronald Schultz firmly states that any amount of antibody is considered protective – a low titer is not necessarily indicative of seroconversion. You might want to contact him directly for more information. I understand your fears regarding parvovirus but 28% of puppies with parvo and 11% of adult dogs with parvo were vaccinated. We want to open people’s eyes to the fact that vaccines should be considered carefully because each one has the ability to harm your animal and that vaccinated animals are not necessarily protected from disease – the immune suppression caused by vaccines is dangerous for puppies and one has to consider the insidious chronic diseases such as cancer and allergies that vaccination causes. I take exception to you stating that lifelong immunity is a complete lie. There is plenty of research, both with challenge and serology, that backs this claim. Dr Schultz has been reporting lifelong immunity since 1978. If you have research to the contrary, I’d like to see it. I really doubt it exists however, because out of all of the thousands of vets and researchers talking about vaccination, Dr Schultz is the only one looking into DOI which is a very sad state of affairs. Speaking of Dr Schultz, did you know he only vaccinates his own dogs once or twice as puppies for the core vaccines and never again. He also says that kennel cough is an “unvaccinatable disease” yet vets continue to advocate and deliver these shots. We want to see an end to over vaccination and needless vaccination of our pets and vets like you can help. The first step is to pay attention to what this researcher is saying and protecting dogs through immunization, not just vaccination.

  31. Kelly February 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM #

    This article is what is wrong with america…. people criticizing our well educated professionals…. please read this article to the hundreds and thousands of parvo dog owners out there and tell them that they did the right thing for not vaccinating.. or the owner that had their dog bite someone and the titer tests dont hold up in court. I have had to break the news to several pet owners that their cute puppy contracted parvo due to lack of vaccination on the owners part…. that has to be the worst feeling ever, knowing you couldve prevented your pet from getting a horrible possibly fatal disease. I feel horrible for the people that are going to follow this article and then end up with a dead or sick pet because they listened to you. Yes it is okay for pet owners to ask questions about vaccinations when they are at the vet… they encourage it! Veterinarians love to educate their clients! I would encourage you to sit through some veterinary courses before you write such an article again…. I mean that would be the best research and basis for fact on your article then wouldnt it?

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 23, 2013 at 6:26 AM #

      Hi Kelly
      This article has been endorsed, reproduced and shared by many holistic veterinarians. If you would like to hear a vet’s point of view regarding how ill equipped veterinary school is to help them make safe and efficacious vaccine decisions, please read http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/vets-on-vaccines/.
      This information may be novel to you but it’s not to vets and pet owners who are seeing he damage that over vaccination can do and opening their eyes to the research that backs these claims up. I encourage you to attend a vaccine seminar with Drs Jean Dodds or Ron Schultz for more information.

    • Jana January 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM #

      Kelly, I don’t think she’s advocating no vaccination at all, just not annual or triannual revaccination of already vaccinated pets. Also did you know that the disease Parvo in dogs is thought to have come from a modified live virus cat vaccine that jumped species? Parvo was unknown prior to the late 1970′s. The genetic code of the pravo virus is extremely similar to the vaccine strain of the feline leukemia virus. So it appears our well educated professionals created a whole new disease. They are the ones responsible for the parvo deaths, not the pet owners who skip annual vaccines.

  32. Laila D February 22, 2013 at 11:44 PM #

    Please do not believe any of the mis information/ miseducation written in this article by someone who has no legitimate training. It is really sad that you are spreading such erroneous information to the public. Do trust in your veterinarian, who are qualified by years of training to recommend preventative treatments necessary to your pets.

  33. Mark M August 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM #

    Vets put you between a rock and a hard place; they refuse to treat your companion animals i.e. surgery, if your animals are not vaccinated. Most vets I know insist on ‘bundling’ vaccinations – so you’re practically guaranteed of an adverse reaction. Why do my cats need to be vaccinated every year if they’re indoor cats? Why does my tiny dog require Bortadella every year? Titering should be COMMON PRACTICE in every veterinary clinic. Whatever happened to ‘first do no harm?” Two answers: sick animals mean business, and they’re asses are covered liability wise. It all comes down to $$$$.

    And speaking of $$$$, I take serious issue with Ms. Scott’s claim that puppies “fly out of shelters.” As long as individuals breed, there will be innocent, healthy, adoptable animals killed by the millions. There needs to be at least a 5 year moratorium breeding of dogs, cats, all small animals, and birds. Spay/neuter saves lives, but not when breeders are exploiting animals for profit. But of course that’s another article.

    • Lovemyjake April 28, 2013 at 2:56 AM #

      Just ask the vet to titer and his face will go pale……… He knows how smart you are.if the titters are high why would you vaccinate?He can’t argue with that one.Rabies can’t be missed due to the law and if your dog gets bite by a wild animal he has to get qurrintined for weeks and go threw hell.lyme is the only one I give my weim since he had Lyme disease already and he is allergic to all commercial tick stuff as well as the fact the stuff is poision so I use essential oils and test him four times a year for Lyme.

  34. Annette Carter August 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM #

    What about the legally enforced rabies vac? Does it also carry 7 year immunity? In the early 90′s I had a normal 10 month old sheltie bitch vaccinated for rabies and within 24 hours she became as fearful as any wild and unsocialized dog. Then by age 5 she developed seizures and was dead by age 9. I have also had a filly develop strangles within 12 days of vaccination and my vet did acknowledge that the strangles was vaccine induced. Something has got to be done. I have been refusing vaccinations of the combo variety for years but rabies you cannot refuse by law. If rabies law could be changed to every five or seven years then other vaccine protocol could follow suit.

    • Dogs Naturally Magazine August 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM #

      There’s no reason why it wouldn’t. Every viral vaccine should provide lifetime immunity. Dr Schultz did prove a 7 year efficacy for the rabies vaccine but that was with serology only. Researchers in France have shown a 5 year efficacy with challenge however.

  35. S Hellberg July 23, 2012 at 4:22 PM #

    Why do you guys have to demean and belittle others just because your opinions differ? No, I don’t feed raw, yes, I vaccinate my dogs for what I feel they need. I’ve been working at a vet office for the past 13 1/2 yrs and all in all, its the owners decision whether to vaccinate, accept recommended medications or proceed with surgery. If your unvaccinated cat bites someone, you can bet that’s going to be a costly quarantine, up to 6 months. If it were vaccinated, maybe 14 days. Heck, your cat just may have to be tested for rabies because it has endangered a human. If you don’t know what that entails, let me inform you. Rabies can only be tested by decapitation. Yea, we’ve seen it and its not pretty. No one can guarantee that their pets wont bite someone, they have teeth, and there just may be that particular situation where someone gets hurt.
    If you don’t want to vaccinate, then don’t do it. Don’t get pissy because other people don’t agree with you. If you want to feed raw, go do it.
    Not all vets are the same, not all diets are the same and opinions are like buttholes…everybody has one. Animals get sick. Bad breeding, bad diets, improper care and just bad luck.
    By the way, my response is ONLY pertaining to cats and dogs. I do not want my words twisted into some crazy anti-humanitarian discussion.

    • bully mama July 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM #

      You are absolutely right. Pet owners have the option of saying NO! Your vet can only make suggestions, not force you. My vet is awesome, she understands how I feel about vaccinating, actually over-vaccinating and accepts that I choose not to vaccinate after the puppy series, but, she will also let me know what the stats were the previous year for diseases and let me know what she feels my guys should be vaccinated for. She also does 3 yr vaccinations instead of yearly. In finding a vet, that was one of my questions I had for her. She is entitled to her opinion and I am entitled to mine, but I definitely appreciate her feedback. If my dogs bite someone, it is my responsibility. If I feel a vaccine is necessary, I will get it

  36. Frank Straka June 20, 2012 at 11:44 AM #

    I lost my best friend, Buddy, a border collie, almost a year ago to cancer at the age of 5. Since then, I’ve been trying to find why he got cancer in the first place, as he was very active and very healthy. There was no history of cancer in his background as he came from very healthy working stock from an organic farm. This article has at least given me a clue as to where to look for answers. I would be very interested in receiving those documents you mentioned.

  37. B. London June 16, 2012 at 7:26 AM #

    I don’t see DVM behind the name of the author so this is just an opinion. I take my animals to QUALIFIED veterinarians for their health care & would NEVER disregard their expertise because THEY are the ones who went to SCHOOL for many YEARS to learn about the health of animals. If you don’t like what your vet is telling you then change vets.

  38. Kate June 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM #

    Wow. You are the dangerous one. No pet overpopulation? Are you insane? Cancer causing prescription diets? Because there is what, no science or research behind these foods?
    You profess to have evidence, but I see you quoting the same two vets in every article. Opinions are just that – opinions, not scientific fact.
    It’s because of people like you telling people about the EVIL vaccines and EVIL money grubbing vets that is causing a resurgence in harmful diseases in all areas. Distemper and parvovirus is making a comeback due people blaming vaccines for everything. Maybe your dog has health problems because it was bred indiscriminately, or exposed to the zillions of toxins in our environment.
    Not everything is because of vaccinating. I had to live as a critical care nurse back in the 80′s before there was a vaccine for Parvovirus. Can I tell you about the hundreds of puppies dying in my arms? Can I tell you about the sweetest cat in the world who became horribly deformed and had to be euthanized because of owners who jumped on the “raw food” diet craze without actually looking into what the drawbacks would be? You may be able to quote your two tired veterinarians, and defend you breeding of labs as “responsible” (because the shelters are not full of them – no, that is why there is an 80% euth rate of labs in Ohio shelters) but until you have lived life on our side of the fence, where unvaccinated animals die needlessly EVERY day, kindly keep your grossly misinformed anti-vaccine views to yourself. I don’t need another innocent life to die horribly because of you. I’m tired of the dying puppies.

  39. Leann June 11, 2012 at 1:53 PM #

    Thank you for the article. I just picked up my wheaten terrier 2 weeks ago (he is 11 weeks old now) and the ‘breeder’ had him vaccinated for an array of things – 10 shots in 7 weeks. I went to the vet [before I had done any research], and after reviewing his shot history, she gave him a dewormer by mouth and a combo shot, without explaining to me. After reading your articles, I looked into it and realized she gave him injections he already had.

    Although I am very upset about this, its already been done, and I won’t be vaccinating him annually after this. However, how do I know if I should continue with any of the puppy shots the vet suggests? (e.g. distemper). Thanks~

    • Dogs Naturally June 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM #

      Run a titer three weeks after his last vaccination. If he has any amount of titer, the vaccine worked and he will be protected for life.

  40. Michele Rolfe May 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM #

    What a wonderful article! I am a mother of an Autistic child whom I wholehearted believe immunizations caused. Two weeks after receiving his 18 month shots my son stopped talking and eating. He is 5 years old now, receives 25 hours a week of therapy and is doing well. I have spent a fortune getting my son the help he needs. I’m not completely against getting your child or your pet vaccinated. However, I have done plenty of research on the human side of vaccinations and getting 4 shots at once, (maybe more for pets) especially if your child has a cold or compromised immune system can cause irreversable severe damage. I tend to believe it would apply to our pet companionas as well. Our biological make-up isn’t as far displaced as many would like to think. I allow my son to get only what is required by law and I space those shots out over weeks or months if I have to. As far as my pets…and I have a few, they only receive Rabies every 3 years because it’s required by law. I have never had a health issue with any of my animals. In fact, my vet gives me great compliments on the beautiful coats they wear, good weight, clear eyes and clean teeth. He still sends me reminders in the mail for those vaccines that are “overdue”…I just ignore them. In my heart I know I’m doing the right thing. There is pleanty of studies and scientific proof that vaccines are harmful to humans, just because the US FDA doesn’t recognize the research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exsist. I fear the same is true for animal research. Unfortunately, unless the boneheads sitting on capital hill decide to spend our tax dollars to prove this issue to be true, we will never see any rules, regulations or change put into effect to help our furry friends!!

  41. Vicki Chambers April 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM #

    Please e-mail me the documention for the vet that pets do not need vaccines every year. We, as humans, do not yet shots every year, why do our animals? even tetnus “lock jaw” is once every ten years. Lets think about it and what makes common sense. Why are we giving animals who on average weight about 50 lbs shots every year. Not common sense and thank you for publishing this article. I am not going to be giving them yearly shots again. I self administer to avoid the vet but I am not going to be the hand that leads to my dogs, that I love very much, to a diagnosis of CANCER. Thanks for saving my dogs some pain and suffering.

  42. Rebecca Stevens April 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM #

    Thanks you so very much for such an informative article. I have often wondered why my dogs have always done fine if I am late getting their imunizations and why every trip to the vet is usually over a hundred dollars per dog. I pay more for their visits than my own trips to the doctor. Please send me the information about the truth about the imunizations so that I will have it for my vet on our next appointment. thanks

  43. Julie C March 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM #

    Dana, WONDERFUL article! Thank you for providing pet guardians with much-needed information. There is a dedicated veterinarian in Texas who runs critteradvocacy.org and has been working hard in the field of overvaccination protocols for many years. He would go to the Texas vet board meetings and they would either laugh at him or ignore him as he worked tirelessly to get people to listen to how vets were raking in the dough at the expense of pets’ lives. They’re not laughing anymore. We finally came a little bit out of the dark ages with some revamping of vaccination protocols and MOST IMPORTANTLY – educating people of the right to INFORMED CONSENT. So many beloved pets are needlessly dead because of this horror. Keep up the good work and never let any of these “doctors” back you down – I had one come after me with three lawyers trying to shut me up and dismantle my web site after I told the world what he did to my cat, and he found out real fast that it wasn’t going to work.

    As for “Hannah,” I feel sorry for her future patients (victims). However, with her arrogance and closed-mindedness she’ll have plenty of company in the vet/pharma business. Ah, she’s young, though. Maybe not too many pets will have to die before she “gets” it, I hope.

    • bully mama July 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM #

      In Canada, what happens to vets that try and keep our pets healthy? They lose their license, happened to Dr. Andrew Jones from BC. For trying to educate the pet owner on how to raise healthy pets. I have learned from experience that vets do not know everything as they have lots of different species to look after not just your species. I always looks for natural methods before running to the vet, and always research as much as I can.

  44. Linda March 22, 2012 at 5:48 PM #

    Dana, thank you so much for a very well written article. I’m sharing your article far and wide. I’m between a rock and a hard place as I can’t find vaccines formulated separately. I see no reason on earth to vaccinate a pet for diseases that are not in this area. Should I decide to vaccinate for more than one, they should still be available separately! Help? Also, sadly, in rescue we cannot take the chance that a pet leaves unvaccinated. I’d like to alter our practices and vaccinate only for parvo, as that is our main concern. This also means that in many cases we may be over-vaccinating. Its not to be helped, but articles such as yours may well eliminate the new owners re-vaccinating in the future.

    Hannah, dearest Hannah… You have the drive and dedication, the energy and passion, to be a stellar champion for the pets that are brought to you for help. As you gain experience, hopefully not many years from now, you will understand, as a growing number of us do, that over-vaccinating is detrimental to a pet’s health. Please sit down and do some homework before throwing out any notion that what is said here is pure BS. I have lived several of your lifetimes and have watched our pets’ life expectancy dwindle to half of what it once was. I challenge your inquiring mind and dedicated spirit to … chill and do some research. ;) Peace…

  45. TopCat March 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM #

    Please send me the vaccine information. The county where I live still requires yearly vaccinations although the state accepts once every three years. One vet told me it was because of the high incidence of rabies -HogWash!!!
    I would like to send the information to the county commissioners.
    Thank you

  46. Leela March 10, 2012 at 1:06 AM #

    when i asked my vet about doing the titer for Distemper, etc. they said that since she is 18 months (and only got the puppy series) that her titers would still be too low and they would need to give her the Distemper, etc. vaccine anyway…..although the vet recommends the 1-yr shot as opposed to the 3-yr since it is too much vaccine at once.

    What are your thoughts on the titer counts? I am very anti-vaccine and have been for some time. Pharmaceutical industry for humans and dogs is greedy and dangerous.

    • Dogs Naturally March 10, 2012 at 1:51 AM #

      Leela, the 1 year and 3 year vaccine are the exact same vaccine – just a different label. How would they know that her titers would be too low without doing them? Immunity is an all or nothing thing – the puppy is either immune or not, and there is either titer or not. Any amount of titer is considered protective.
      I suggest you read the following article and share it with your vet:

      http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/what-every-vet-should-know-about-vaccines/

      Make not of this quote from Dr. Schultz: “Only one dose of the modified-live canine ‘core’ vaccine (against CDV, CAV-2 and CPV-2) or modified-live feline ‘core’ vaccine (against FPV, FCV and FHV), when administered at 16 weeks or older, will provide long lasting (many years to a lifetime) immunity in a very high percentage of animals.”

      There should be no need to revaccinate your dog if she received her puppy series. A positive titer will prove this and is a very good investment in your dog’s health.

  47. Jane March 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM #

    down here. If you want to stay in your little dream world where all puppies get homes and don’t get euthanized because they aren’t adopted, then don’t come down here because you will get a huge wake-up call. You think pet overpopulation is a myth? Why don’t you tell that to the many, many puppies that are getting killed down here in the Southeast?. Your head is totally buried in the sand. Oh, and by the way, I foster dogs for several rescues and we carefully screen adopters, and our contracts also state that we will take a dog back if it doesn’t work out for any reason. Our adopters are people who have already had several dogs, know what they want and are completely prepared for the commitment a dog requires – financially and otherwise (does that sound familiar? That’s because we do the same thing as you except we’re not “selling” for profit. The difference beween us and the low-life puppy mill breeders down here (99% of whom are solely in it for the money) is that we spay and neuter our dogs first so they don’t keep breeding and contributing to even more overpopulation. Sorry I have such a negative opinion of breeders, but it’s just hard to watch beautiful adoptable puppies in the kill pounds die by the thousands while breeders are selling puppies. Please stop saying that pet overpopulation is a myth. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    • Hannah March 21, 2012 at 9:26 AM #

      Thank you Jane, I agree with you 100%.

  48. Jane March 9, 2012 at 5:53 PM #

    I won’t start a back & forth with you on this, Ms. Scott, because it’s not really the topic of your article on murderous vets. However, I don’t know where you live, but I live the in Southeaster U.S. and I ASSURE YOU that there DEFINITELY is a pet overpopulation down here and puppies DO NOT “go flying off the shelves” in the shelters here simply because there are way too many of them. They are euthanizing puppies EVERY DAY

  49. Jane March 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM #

    Interesting that the author of this article is accusing vets of being unethical. Yet, she BREEDS Labs while thousands of Labs (many purebred) are being euthanized in kill-shelters due to animal overpopulation. Ms. Scott, examine YOUR OWN actions before condeming others.

    • Dogs Naturally March 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM #

      Jane, yes I breed Labradors. I have also worked for years as a volunteer with rescues and shelters as a behaviour consultant. Please tell me what is wrong with breeding, well tempered, healthy dogs that go to homes that are EXTREMELY well screened. My puppy buyers are people who have already had several dogs, know what they want and are completely prepared for the commitment a dog requires – financially and otherwise. My contract states that I will take any puppy back that I produce, no matter the circumstances. What this means is that my puppies will never end up in a shelter. My screening process is much more intense than any shelter offers and I’ve seen shelter dogs returned countless times because the homes are not properly screened.

      I’m sure you won’t listen to what I have to say, but there is not a pet overpopulation – that is a myth. Puppies fly off the shelves in the shelters. There is a pet retention problem and that is why most dogs that end up in shelters are young adults and adolescents. I am doing my part to keep dogs out of shelters and I am producing puppies that are raised naturally, with full health clearances and in the best conditions possible. I have bred five litters in the past ten years and pay over $20,000 per year to produce puppies properly so, believe me, I am not doing this for the money but to improve the overall health of dogs.

  50. Maargery Friedlander March 8, 2012 at 9:19 PM #

    Wonderfully informative article!
    Please send my documentation I can supply to my vet. Many thanks in advance.

  51. Maria March 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM #

    Your article is great!
    I completely agree with you. I get all my rescue animals spayed and neutered, and their annual shots. I would like to know which shots are not necessary. I noticed how most vets I used to go to would give me 10 different medicines/vitamins and I kindly decline all of them.. Now I have a great vet who actually cares about the animals. I would just like to know which shots I can avoid.
    Thank you!

  52. mitch klein March 8, 2012 at 4:12 AM #

    last year my vet deceided without my permission to give my tibetan mastiff a cocktail of all his shots at one time. the only reason i realized this, was when i got the bill. i questioned the office manager and was told the reason the bill was so high was that i normally do the shots twice in one year not all at once. i did not think much of it until two weeks later my dog had a seizure. i called the vet and was told to watch him closely and see if this happens again. it did two weeks later. i asked if it could be from all the shots at one time he said no. i talked to other tibetan mastiff breeders and owners and they told me it was possible. my dog now gets 1 1/2 grains twice a day of pheno his last seizure was 35 days ago. i wish i could give my former vet the same cocktail. my new vet does not agree with all these vaccines and said please do a titers prior to any shots. less is more. i am glad i took the time to find a new vet. it may save my current tm and my new puppy.

    • Hannah March 21, 2012 at 9:21 AM #

      ” i asked if it could be from all the shots at one time he said no. i talked to other tibetan mastiff breeders and owners and they told me it was possible.”

      Taking medical advice from a breeder is both illogical and dangerous. Veterinarians have years of intensive medical training from highly accredited institutions. A lot of people forget this.

  53. Nancy Meyer March 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM #

    I would like to receive the supporting documentation for my vet as well as the owner of the kennel where I board my dog. There is no doubt in my mind that my older dog dies prematurely at the age of 11+ from complications from the vaccines. I have gotten my vet and kennel owner to agree to a 3 yr rotation except for Bordatella and Lepto but I would like to make this even better for him. I also understand that there are homeopathic vaccines for dogs. I am an N.D. and would like to find a source for this. Can you suggest one?

  54. Hannah March 7, 2012 at 3:17 AM #

    Having an article like this spouting erroneous information is very dangerous. I am a veterinary student, get no money from drug companies, and have learned the SCIENCE behind use of vaccines to prevent disease! I cannot emphasize enough how dangerous it is to have an unvaccinated pet! In the clinic, WE WEAR GLOVES AROUND UNVACCINATED ANIMALS TO PROTECT THEM FROM DISEASE. We treat them as if they are immune compromised, because they are! Your dog could DIE from contracting distemper or rabies. YOU NEED TO VACCINATE YOUR ANIMALS. Your veterinarian went to a school of MEDICINE for countless years so that they could advise you to keep your pet happy and healthy! DO NOT trust this article, trust your vet! And if you want a second opinion, go to another vet! This author has no scientific references for not vaccinating animals and you should not take this as veterinary advice!

    • Dogs Naturally March 7, 2012 at 3:53 AM #

      Hannah stated: “In the clinic, WE WEAR GLOVES AROUND UNVACCINATED ANIMALS TO PROTECT THEM FROM DISEASE. We treat them as if they are immune compromised, because they are!”

      Hannah, how is it even conceivable that an unvaccinated animal is immune compromised? I can give you PLENTY of research showing that vaccination causes immune suppression. For example, if you wish to contact W. Jean Dodds, she will let you know that the adenovirus vaccine creates immunosuppression for 10 days in vaccinated animals. Dr. Dodds no longer supports the use of adenovirus for this reason. Dr. Ronald Schultz can give you the same lowdown for the parvovirus vaccine – not to mention that it destroys the thymus. I trust you know who these noted researchers are? If not, you might want to familiarize yourself with their work.

      Hannah, I really don’t want to make an example of you, but you are only proving our point that vets are not prepared to make informed vaccine decisions by your statement. Vaccines do not immunize, they sensitize. There are thousands of unvaccinated animals walking around who have measurable titers to the diseases you fear so you can take those gloves off. If you want to wear those gloves, you had better do it for the animals you handle that were vaccinated with MLV vaccines because those are the ones who are going to shed that virus.

      Whilst we are on the topic, you might want to read our May 2012 issue – or email me privately and I will fill you in on the details on a case where two healthy puppies were vaccinated for distemper with a MLV and got distemper from the vaccine. Seem implausible? Well, not to Colorado State University where they determined that the distemper in the puppies was the vaccine strain, not the wild strain. If you want proof, I will hand that report over to you and you can bring it to class with you to discuss with your classmates. As a matter of fact, I have lots of those reports.

      Please, Hannah, don’t be close minded and don’t be afraid to challenge conventional thinking. When you graduate, you will take an oath to first do no harm. The moment you vaccinate an animal without full recognition of both the benefits and the risks of that needle, you will break that oath.

      • Hannah March 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM #

        What qualifications do you have to make any of the statements you just made? Have you taken courses in immunology, epidemiology, GENERAL BIOLOGY? I would like to make an example out of YOU and URGE pet owners to not take advice from a glorified animal trainer who thinks that reading a few articles makes them an expert. I cannot take you seriously. I urge you to read scientific articles and research about the vast benefits of vaccination. Ever heard of smallpox? How do you think we got rid of that? This whole article boggles my mind. I think that you’re really passionate about holistic medicine, however you’re misinformed.

      • Hannah March 21, 2012 at 9:16 AM #

        After re-reading your reply, the condescension is beyond belief, coming from someone with absolutely no medical or scientific training.

    • Deb Sanford March 7, 2012 at 4:00 AM #

      Sorry Hanna, I disagree. We do not get re-vaccinated for every little ailments over and over once we are vaccinated its for life. Why shouldn’t it be the same for our pets? This article is not saying to never vaccinate your pets, they should have the initial vaccinations, and then have a titer test so see where their immunity stands. Studies show that some animals are protected up to 7 years in some cases. This is not only a waste of money for the pet owner but its dangerous to stress out their immune system. And these days its very hard to find a vet that is more interested in the health of their patients than in making money. You are a vet student, hopefully you will be different when you get your own practice.

      • Hannah March 21, 2012 at 9:14 AM #

        I didn’t read the rest of your paragraph because your very first statement is incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine
        And how about Tetanus? That’s not a very fun disease!
        The history of medicine is very fascinating, I suggest everyone that is anti-vaccination should educate themselves.

        • Dogs Naturally March 21, 2012 at 9:35 AM #

          Hi Hannah
          The article speaks to viral vaccines, not bacterial. Tetanus is a bacterial infection, hence the need to vaccinate more than once, if vaccination is chosen. Deb is absolutely right when she states that viral vaccines are very likely to last for the life of the animal…and we have plenty of articles that show the science to back it up.

        • Betty February 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM #

          Your first mistake is referencing wikipedia.

  55. Jan March 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM #

    I too, would like to have the information you offered about vaccines sent to me. I have only in recent years, stopped vaccinating my dogs for anything other than rabies (required by law where I live) due to financial reasons, but now I am thinking maybe this is better for them anyway! Thanks for this article!

  56. Cecilia Hersey March 6, 2012 at 8:20 PM #

    I loved the article! You noted in the article that if I emailed you, you’d provide me with all the paperwork I’d need to give to my vet to “educate” him on over vaccination.

    Would you please email it to me?

    Thanks!

  57. Maude Garceau March 6, 2012 at 4:22 PM #

    Hello! I would also like to receive the informations on vaccines through my e-mail please! I bought a dog from particular almost 4 months ago … I got her all the vaccines and threatments they recommended .. and they told me i have to come back after 1 year to get the vaccines again.

    This article scared me and i want the information to make sure i do the best for my puppy. Thank you ! :)

  58. Richard Gilroy - Perth Australia March 6, 2012 at 7:35 AM #

    Dana Scott and DNM,

    Thank you for the great article on vaccinations.

    We too decided some time ago never again to subject any more of our dogs to any unnecessary and destructive practice, having read in depth so much information and also speaking with the fantastic Australian holistic vet Dr Clare Middle.
    When our GSD reached 10 months of age we asked Dr Middle to blood titre test (mainly for our peace of mind and confirmation for others) and we were all delighted with the titre results for immunity. The lab results spoke for themselves….so Koza has rated lifetime immunity, no more poisons for dogs.

    Could you please forward us the aforementioned paperwork you mentioned?
    thanks for the super articles. Richard – Perth, Australia.

  59. Misha Barney March 6, 2012 at 3:49 AM #

    I have had basset hounds most of my life, and for the past 25 years as an adult. I have had 5 die of various forms of cancer. The 3 I have now, all of them rescues that I got at about a year old, are getting rabies shots only. I feed a quality food and want to see if this makes a difference.

  60. Ann Webb March 6, 2012 at 1:21 AM #

    Please send me the documentation against regular vaccination.

    Thanks,
    A. Webb

  61. Linda Godwin March 5, 2012 at 8:36 PM #

    My Schipperke developed mysterious seizures at about 4 years of age. The vet said he was epileptic, but I now wonder about this, as no other dog from that breeder had this, and it developed about two months after “routine” vaccinations. He also developed pancreatitis at 9 years of age, again with none of the usual precursors such as overweight or autoimmune problems. Finally, at 12 years of age, he developed bladder cancer, and died nearly a year later. Did the vaccines have anything to do with this? I will always wonder, even if the Vet said they had nothing to do with it. Then, I vaccinated my Schipperke puppy against Kennel Cough before showing her, and she got it anyway, and passed it to my Airedale Terrier. They snuffled for a couple of weeks like we do with colds, and are fine now. I think I will skip the vaccines in the future, and have healthier dogs.

  62. Deb Sanford March 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM #

    I am very interested in receiving the information on vaccines for my Vet. I have a 13 yr old labx with a lump at an injection site (she said its a fatty tumor) and I just found another lump on his other leg. I am stopping all vaccines for him and will have my Vet do a titer test, if she doesn’t offer them then I am going to find another vet who does, but I want to go well armed with information.

    I wish I had this info years ago :(

    • Hunter Hampton March 6, 2012 at 5:09 AM #

      Be careful, my cat had a lump at a vaccine injection site… it turned out to be “vaccine site sarcoma”

      My cat died as a result of the cancer.

      • Deb Sanford March 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM #

        Thanks Hunter, I’m so sorry you lost your cat.

        My Mom’s cat also died from that about 20 years ago, back when they did annual vaccinations. I will be having her needle stick it to test for cancer when he goes in for his check up soon. I’m hoping she’s right and its just a fatty tumor. He’s too old to go thru surgery to remove his leg.

  63. gwen rynkiewicz March 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM #

    i would love to know more about the Lyme vaccine. is it really necessary to give it every year?

    thank you,
    gwen

    • Dr. Stephanie February 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM #

      Any bacterial disease, such as lyme or leptospirosis, needs to be boostered annually. Personally, I would only vaccinate dogs for lyme disease that I felt had a high risk of exposure, such as hunting and farm dogs. Preferential to prevent tick infestations, the vector for lyme disease, seeing as ticks spread other diseases as well that we can’t vaccinate for. On a personal note, I find this article highly offensive and wildly inaccurate. Please talk to your vet if you have any concerns about vaccinations or vaccine schedules, and also about the diseases that we vaccinate for. These diseases are still out there, in only 8 months of being a vet I have seen cases of distemper, parvovirus, and lyme disease in dogs, and many cases of distemper and calicivirus in cats. I could argue with whoever wrote this blog all day, but I’d rather just keep things civil.

      • Dogs Naturally Magazine February 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM #

        Hi Dr Stephanie
        We would welcome the opportunity to discuss this with you civilly. Please open the lines of communication as I’m certain we could all learn from it. We really would like to know where our inaccuracies lie as it’s not our intent to mislead pet owners but rather to protect them from the over servicing of our companion animals.

      • Bill Pickersgill April 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM #

        Dear Dr. Stephanie : Your right about treating only those dogs were the owners take them in the woods, Lyme is unheard of in dogs on a leash just walking on the street , it’s just common sense, and there’s no need to do any harmful vaccines just go over or check your dogs coat like I always did when I took my dog in the woods , so how come 90% of vet’s don’t explain this to there patient’s ? is it not because of 1 Tim 6:10 [ NIV bible ] and if you research Lyme in dogs it’s very rarely deadly that’s a fact, hardly a reason to administer a vaccine” that’s very dangerous to dogs !!! that’s a fact, also !., although rabies is the most dangerous to give a dog , a fact also !. And a simple anti- biotic will work just fine in like 90% of the time in like 7 days ,also what I learned through research. Dog’s cannot metabolize drug’s it’s that simple it’s basic canine 101 so why do 90% of vets like you take the drug route, you can help the problem your treating, but you create another health problem or ruin another organ like the saying” The cure is worse than the disease”. The God of the Bible didn’t make animals nearly as efficient as we are in getting chemicals and toxin’s out of our systems Ps 139:14 my dog when he was 14years old, people thought he was a puppy and he never had dog food ,visited a vet ,nor was ever vaccinated, as for dog food what did dogs eat before dog food , I’ll tell you they ate what there owners ate and were way healthier and lived longer, do the experiment yourself and see the difference in a dogs coat which tells you the health of a dog, it’s coat, does it shine, no , vaccines are not necessary and very dangerous how many perfectly healthy dogs are ruined every year by this Satanic practice ?, I leave you with this Bible scripture concerning the above simple common sense understanding 11 Thes 2:10 you have to examine your heart and mind as to why you got into the field was it not to make lots of money or that you really care about our fury friend’s?

        Sincerely Bible Bill

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