How’s that for a title? If it got your attention, then that’s good because this topic needs your attention. It used to be that dogs visited the vet pretty rarely. They only needed a couple of vaccines, they weren’t eating veterinary prescription diets and they weren’t continually loaded with heartworm preventives, flea and tick meds and shampoos, dewormers, pharmaceuticals and more. Thinking back, maybe that’s why they didn’t need to go to the vet all that often.
Today, there is a very different veterinary clinic. It’s true that we now have better treatment options at our disposal, such as MRIs and more technologically advanced surgery. I think it’s great that vets – and our pets – have access to these tools. But somewhere along the way, the veterinary practice lost perspective. I’m not talking about individual vets because I believe that most of them do want to do right by our pets. But the problem is that the vets have allowed themselves to be influenced by the pharmaceutical companies and the dog food manufacturers – and this has been to the great detriment of our pets.
The veterinary profession is broken and it isn’t about to change any time soon. Our pets are being over-serviced and we are getting fleeced. We pay for the unnecessary vaccinations, the overly-processed, synthetic prescription pet foods that contain ingredients from China, and we pay for drugs and chemicals that are damaging to the immune system. After shelling out for these services, pet owners need to keep their wallets open because, sooner or later, the chronic disease caused by these products will start to kick in and require treatment. We accept health issues such as arthritis and hip dysplasia, allergies and skin issues, gastrointestinal issues and parasite loads as common problems that dogs suffer and this couldn’t be further from the truth. They are disease and they threaten the quality and quantity of life of our companion animals – and many of them are caused by the products vets tell us are safe and effective.
The sad fact is, vets are harming our dogs. They have too many drugs, vaccines and chemicals at their disposal and they are too willing to dispense them. The worst part is, they hold no accountability for their actions. In short, they can and do ignore vaccine label recommendations or prescribe harmful or unnecessary drugs and pet owners have no recourse.
I believe that the most common and most harmful veterinary practice is over-vaccination. Not only do the vaccines cause a lot of damage in our dogs, but nearly every vaccine vets give to our dogs is unnecessary. Pay attention to that sentence: nearly every vaccine given to our dogs is useless and they get all of the risk and none of the reward. How could this happen? How can vets cause so much disease in our dogs without even knowing it?
Vets Do Not Understand Immunology or Vaccines
I paraphrase Dr. Ronald Schultz, the leading veterinary immunologist when I say that vets are not prepared to make vaccine decisions. In the March 2012 issue of Dogs Naturally, we published an article where we interviewed various vets on their thoughts and experience with vaccines. Here are some of the responses we got:
“I was taught vaccines were safe and it was implied there had been safety studies done on them before they were used on the general public. They are not safe and there have not been any safety studies done on any of them. I was taught that if something adverse happens within a few hours after immunization it was related to the vaccines but, if it happened later than that period of time, it had nothing to do with the vaccines. The truth of the matter is vaccines can set up a latent condition that may show up within a few hours or years after immunization.” (Dr. Stephen Blake)
“My training in vet school was not complete with regard to the harmful effects that vaccines have on the immune system. The scientific evidence was not properly explored by the eighties. Vaccines were designed to help stimulate immunity. Current research is proving just the opposite however. Even my graduate school immunology course (attended mainly by MD students) was incomplete. (Dr Jeff Feinman)
“Vaccination in college was skimmed over with little discussion of potential risks involved. In practice I have seen what I believe to be vaccine related problems of skin disease (allergic); inflammatory bowel disease; and epilepsy which appear to have been triggered or coincided with vaccination.” (Dr. Mark Carpenter)
So here we have a substance that we now know can cause many acute and chronic health issues – and even death – and the vets themselves admit that they really weren’t educated in their use. More importantly, because the veterinary colleges are financially aligned with the pharmaceutical companies, most of the curriculum is very pro-vaccine with little time spent discussing the very real issue of harmful reactions. How could this happen?
More Is Not Better
Back in the 1970′s, dogs were only vaccinated for only one or two diseases. Today, there are vaccines for adenovirus, parainfluenza, bordetella, lyme disease, leptospirosis, hepatitis, rabies – and there are more and more coming down the pipe. Today, dogs and puppies are often vaccinated with 7 or more viruses at the same time. They routinely receive rabies vaccinations at the same time as other vaccinations – even though it clearly states on the label not to do this.
It has been largely acknowledged for the last thirty or forty years that the core vaccines most likely last for the life of the animal. Not only are vets delivering more and more vaccines to our pets, they are continuing to do so on a schedule that has clearly and consistently been proven to be both ineffective and dangerous.
In the 1970′s, all vaccines, with the exception of rabies vaccines, were licensed by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) based on challenge studies performed from only a few weeks to a few months after vaccination. All the vaccine labels included the statement ‘‘Annual Revaccination Recommended’’ without the knowledge of whether the true duration of immunity (DOI) was a year or a life time. So vets vaccinated yearly, even though field observation suggested that immunity after both natural infection and vaccination was long lived.
“The patient receives no benefit and may be placed at serious risk when an unnecessary vaccine is given.” Says Dr. Schultz. ”Few or no scientific studies have demonstrated a need for cats or dogs to be revaccinated.”
Yet vets continue to send us postcards telling us we need to bring our pets in for even more vaccinations, either every year or every three years. Whichever schedule the vet chooses is a moot point because revaccination is not necessary. Immunity is like being a virgin – you either are or you aren’t and once you change, there is no changing back again. Dogs are either immune or they are not, and once immune, there is every indication that this lasts a lifetime. Distemper, for example, has been shown to last for 15 years. In fact, all of the core vaccines have shown this kind of lifespan.
So why do vets continue to vaccinate unnecessarily?
“Profits are what vaccine critics believe is at the root of the profession’s resistance to update its protocols. Without the lure of vaccines, clients might be less inclined to make yearly veterinary visits. Vaccines add up to 14 percent of the average practice’s income, AAHA reports, and veterinarians stand to lose big. I suspect some are ignoring my work,” says Schultz, who claims some distemper vaccines last as long as 15 years. “Tying vaccinations into the annual visit became prominent in the 1980s and a way of practicing in the 1990s. Now veterinarians don’t want to give it up.”
Even those vets who want to do the right thing are vaccinating our pets too often and with too much. As stated above, they are not prepared to make balanced vaccine decisions because the veterinary colleges rely on the vaccine manufacturers to prepare their immunology curriculum. Clearly, no matter how much pet owners trust their vets, they can’t rely on them to protect their animals from unnecessary vaccination and the damage it causes. But what about the veterinary associations – aren’t they looking out for our pets?
The Fox Is Watching The Hen House
In 1978, when vets were vaccinating annually, Schultz et al published ‘‘An Ideal (But Not Proven) Immunization Schedule for Dogs and Cats’’. They recommended a series of puppy/kitten vaccinations followed by revaccination at 1 year, then revaccination every 3 years.
Research was initiated at that time to prove his suspicions and dogs where challenged with exposure to Distemper, Adenovirus and Parvovirus, anywhere from 1 to 11 years after vaccination. Every single dog was protected when exposed to the virus. “The results from this limited group of dogs clearly demonstrated the Norden modified live vaccines provided immunity for at least 11 years against CDV and CPV-2″ says Dr. Schultz. Based on this research, Drs Schultz and Scott recommended triennial revaccination instead of annual revaccination.
These early recommendations prompted the AAHA to assemble a task force. In 2003, the American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccine Task Force evaluated the data from these challenge and serological studies and, while noting that the core vaccines had a minimum duration of immunity of at least seven years, compromised in 2003 with the statement that “revaccination every 3 years is considered protective.”
Task force member Dr. Richard Ford, Professor of Medicine, North Carolina State University, said that the decision to recommend a 3 year revaccination schedule for core vaccines was a compromise. “It’s completely arbitrary…,” he said. “I will say there is no science behind the three-year recommendation…”
Today, eight years later, despite more and more research showing long lasting immunity for core vaccines and the deleterious effects of vaccination, the AAHA hasn’t changed it’s position all that much. The 2011 revaccination guidelines state: “every 3 years or more” with the following comment: “Among healthy dogs, all commercially available [core] vaccines are expected to induce a sustained protective immune response lasting at least 5 yr. thereafter”
Why do they state that the immune response lasts at least 5 years (and even this is a serious underestimation) yet stick to that magically arbitrary schedule of 3 years?
“Both the AAHA and the AVMA must do more to “step up to the plate” says noted immunologist, Dr. Richard Ford. But the reality is, the vets do not have to listen to the AAHA or the AVMA and it appears the state veterinary medical boards are not interested in enforcing vaccine schedules, opting to leave it up to the individual vet.
This is extremely problematic because, as the vets themselves have revealed, they are not prepared to make a decision on how often they should vaccinate and what vaccines they should give. In the end, the vets are over-vaccinating either out of ignorance or greed, and the governing bodies only seem interest in protecting the financial interests of their veterinary members. Speaking of that, it is noteworthy that the major sponsors of the AAHA guidelines are the major pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines.
Informed Consent
Why are most pet owners unaware of vaccine dangers? Because vets are led to believe that vaccines are safe, they lead us to believe they are safe. That is not an excuse. If vets are to take our money for the delivery of medical procedures, they had darn well better know the safety and efficacy of that procedure. Every day, I communicate with vets who defend their vaccine practices and demand the research behind our claims. I give it to them but, at the same time, I question why they are relying on blogs and magazines for their information? It is the vet’s responsibility to fully understand the risks and benefits of every medical procedure they perform on our pets and to research it thoroughly. Here is the most important part: it is also their responsibility to inform pet owners of the risks and benefits of that procedure.
How many pet owners are given full disclosure when their animals are vaccinated? How many vets warn them that the vaccine may cause injection site sarcomas, other forms of cancer, severe allergic reactions or even anaphylactic shock and death? Here is the list of adverse events known to be induced via vaccine administration (Schultz, 2007):
Common Reactions:
- Lethargy
- Hair Loss, hair color change at injection Site
- Fever
- Soreness
- Stiffness
- Refusal to eat
- Conjunctivitis
- Sneezing
- Oral ulcers
Moderate Reactions:
- Immunosupression
- Behavioral changes
- Vitiligo
- Weight loss (Cachexia)
- Reduced milk production
- Lameness
- Granulomas/Abscesses
- Hives
- FacialeEdema
- Atopy
- Respiratory disease
- Allergic uveitis (Blue Eye)
Severe Reactions triggered by Vaccines:
- Vaccine injection site sarcomas
- Anaphylaxis
- Arthritis, polyarthritis
- HOD hypertrophy osteodystrophy
- Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia
- Immune Mediated Thrombocytopenia (IMTP)
- Hemolytic disease of the newborn (Neonatal Isoerythrolysis)
- Thyroiditis
- Glomerulonephritis
- Disease or enhanced disease which with the vaccine was designed to prevent
- Myocarditis
- Post vaccinal Encephalitis or polyneuritis
- Seizures
- Abortion, congenital anomalies, embryonic/fetal death, failure to conceive
Why is it that we aren’t informed of this before our pets are vaccinated? Why are we not provided with informed consent? Every day, dogs are permanently damaged from vaccines and vets continue to urge us to vaccinate without any regard to the potential risks. There are thousands of pet owners with pets dying of cancer or suffering from severe allergies who wish they could turn back the clock and be given a second chance to consent to that vaccination – with their eyes wide open and fully aware of both the risks and the benefits of that seemingly innocuous needle.
In human medicine, performing a medical procedure without full disclosure and informed consent would be called malpractice and there would most definitely be a lawsuit. In veterinary practice, this doesn’t happen. Which leads us to the final point.
Why Veterinary Malpractice Is An Illusion
Until the mid-part of the last century, the term “malpractice” didn’t even apply to veterinarians (and still may not in some states where this profession is not listed under the malpractice statute). Recently, however, veterinarians have become subject to state malpractice actions. Despite this trend, veterinarian malpractice lawsuits still aren’t that common because the measure of damages for the loss of a pet in most states is the market value of the pet. In other words, what someone else would pay for an identical pet of the same age, breed and condition.
In nearly all cases, lawyer’s fees would be more than pet owners would be able to recover in court. Also, pet owners have to prove the same things you would have proven in a medical malpractice case, which isn’t always easy or inexpensive. A few states allow money damages for emotional distress and loss of companionship. However, awards for an owner’s mental suffering are the exception rather than the rule.
So it seems that the veterinary colleges can continue to allow the vaccine manufacturers to teach their students about immunology, the vets can continue to deliver unnecessary and dangerous vaccines to our animals without full disclosure of their risks, the veterinary associations will continue to make vague statements regarding vaccine duration of immunity and refuse to monitor the activities of their members, and our pets will continue to suffer because nobody cares enough to do anything about it. Well, that’s not entirely true. We care. We care a lot. And we know that because you are reading this article, that you care too.
What Can Pet Owners Do?
Just because we can’t sue vets doesn’t meant we can’t sock it to them financially. If we demand informed consent and refuse any and all unnecessary vaccinations, we will force vets to look into different revenue sources. Look your vet in the eye and tell him that the vaccines he is advocating are not only unnecessary but dangerous – and have the paperwork to back it up (just read this article and we’ll give you all you need). Then kindly decline the vaccinations.
There are other ways you can influence vets financially. Stop buying their crappy prescription diets. They are full of synthetic and processed ingredients that cause cancer and toxic build up in your pet. Better yet, find a vet who does not push needless vaccinations, overly-processed foods or other harmful pharmaceuticals.
Finally, demand that any and all vaccine and drug reactions are reported to the right agencies. Remember, it can take months or years for vaccine damage to rear its ugly head. Here are the phone numbers and websites you need to know:
For adverse veterinary drug reactions:
Center for Veterinary Medicine, Food and Drug Administration
888-332-8387
www.fda.gov/cvm/contactcvm/contactCVM.html and follow the link for report a drug reaction.
For veterinary vaccines and other biologicals:
Center for Biologics, USDA
800-752-6255
www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/cvb/ic/adverseeventreport.htm
For topical insecticides
EPA: 800-858-7378
The best solution is to give our money only to the best vets who have done their homework on vaccines and immunology. There are many good holistic vets to be found and if we give them our money, we will force the rest of the vets to also start learning about natural health care.
The bottom line is, you are the only thing that stands between your dog and harmful veterinary over-servicing. By educating ourselves and refusing unnecessary vaccination, we can fix what is broken with the veterinary system without the help of the vets, one pet at a time.
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I think this article is great. I think that people are completely brainwashed and just because the dog(s) cannot speak up and let us know if they feel sick doesn’t mean we can continue to pump them with unnecessary vaccines. For example; I had a very very bad reaction to the Gardasil Vaccine about 7 years ago. I lost 50% of my hair, and I was traumatized. Anyone notice that the commercial for this evil vaccine doesn’t air on TV anymore! Ask yourselves that! Thankfully with a change in diet, and a load of vitamins, it took me a little over a year to notice regrowth and now 7 years later my hair is STILL growing back! I am a woman. This was terrible! and all my Doctor could say was it was a coincidence!!!! I have switched 3 vets so far due to them telling me my dogs will die if I don’t get them vaccinated!! I then went to another who said that my dogs built immunity to the diseases so they don’t need the shots!!! Of course they don’t. The money spent on heartworm pills and the flee medicine is not good either. There are naturally ways to take care of animals the same way we take care of ourselves. I know someone who had dogs all his life. They lived to be 26 years old!!!! NO VACCINES!! and never was sick. He never visited a Vet!!!!!! Feed the dog proper food, fresh water and they will be fine!
please don’t just vaccinate because the vet says so.Ask them to draw a blood test titer for that vaccine.If it comes back elevated your dog is protected and your vet will then understand just how wise to them you are .My vet agreed with me completely regarding over vaccinating vets are today.Rabies is the only vaccine that can’t be skipped.Also never combine any vaccines alway alone weeks apart.Dr.Jean Dodd DMV always speaks about over vaccination on the Internet .She also posts an amazing vaccine protocol for every type of breed as well.If you send her an email with a question she will call you back!!!!!!!! She has helped me for years with the best possible advice.I wish she was on the east coast so I could use her as a vet best to all Jakesmom
I have an idea that might work better than writing ill-informed, lukewarm articles and uneducated replies on the internet about a topic you don’t understand. Hear me out here….
Why don’t you offer up your dogs for a virus challenge study if you’re so interested in advancing this cause? I mean a lot of the problem is that there aren’t enough of those done so no we DON’T know what a protective titer is for a lot of the common animal diseases. So do it, put your money (literally, because you breed and sell puppies) where your mouth is: put out a call to all of your tinfoil hat vaccine paranoid friends, get their titers for rabies, parvo and distemper and put all of your dogs together in a room with a few rabid bats and raccoons, some dogs from WA infected with that emerging parvo strain that is affecting adult dogs, and a couple of distemper dogs. And let’s see which of your dogs die horrible deaths from these diseases, and which live. Then maybe we can repeat this every so often and get some real data going, and those nasty money grubbing veterinarians will believe us!!!
Hi Sirius
Naturally Rearing breeders conduct this field study every day. Many don’t vaccinate at all for the core vaccines and their dogs are protected. I’ve had a puppy with parvovirus personally. He recovered in 12 hours with the help of homeopathic and herbal support. Immunity does not have to come from a needle, natural immunity can and does happen otherwise every species would have been wiped off the face of the earth long ago. Having said that, the article advocates less vaccination, not necessarily no vaccination. We also don’t advocate breaking the law in regard to rabies vaccination. What we do advocate is the end to over vaccination. One vaccine is all that is necessary to protect an animal for life and the research backing this claim was made evident to vets in 1978 and has been repeated over and over again in the last 30 years. Please refer to our article Vets On Vaccines to see the many holistic vets who completely endorse the concepts in this article. After reading this, then you can decide if these vets are also ill informed and uneducated.
Sirius is a popular name for trolls (those spreading disinformation and confusion). They usually attack sites that are trying to help us all be more healthy and have more freedom. Probably employees of the same people who brought us GMO’s and immunizations. Apparently from all the angry messages on this article, he dialed up his cronies to add their voice!! (why would someone who BELIEVES in vaccines be searching for information on why they are not healthy?) Unless you think they all just “stumbled” upon this article.
Thanks DNM for all the great articles!! My vet was very understanding when i said no to any more vaccines for my dogs (except Rabies). He even said he won’t personally take a flu shot since the first time he had one with a reaction. My daughter and I experienced the same problem and now both of us refuse flu shots. That experience is what started me looking into vaccine safety. After the recent H1N1 (human) vaccine troubles where they NEVER EVEN TESTED them before public use, it doesn’t surprise me at all that the manufactureres have done little research to prove animal vaccines need to be continually boosted. Unfortunately, the rabies law has us all trapped if we go in public places. Is there anything we can do to get the law changed to 5 years?
Thanks again – keep up the good work, many of us are hearing your message.
This article scares me because owners will actually stop vaccinating their pets as jump on this crazy wagon. I am a vet in a busy small animal practice. Our practice saw THREE adult dogs die of parvo virus this year. Not to mention several puppies that owners foolishly didn’t vaccinate, or only vaccinated once at 8 weeks. This area saw a horrible outbreak of parvo this year and IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED! I love the idea of doing titres on animals before their vaccines in adulthood, however, it is a complete lie that all dogs are either immune or they or not for life. I’ve had several dogs that are vaccinated at the same time as their housemate and come back with completely different titres, which may or may not be in the protective range. You can always voice your opinion about vaccines with your vet. They can go over the pros and cons of them and which are most important in your are and for your particular animal. If your vet doesn’t like this, find a different one.
Jacqueline, thanks for your feedback. As for the protective range, Dr Ronald Schultz firmly states that any amount of antibody is considered protective – a low titer is not necessarily indicative of seroconversion. You might want to contact him directly for more information. I understand your fears regarding parvovirus but 28% of puppies with parvo and 11% of adult dogs with parvo were vaccinated. We want to open people’s eyes to the fact that vaccines should be considered carefully because each one has the ability to harm your animal and that vaccinated animals are not necessarily protected from disease – the immune suppression caused by vaccines is dangerous for puppies and one has to consider the insidious chronic diseases such as cancer and allergies that vaccination causes. I take exception to you stating that lifelong immunity is a complete lie. There is plenty of research, both with challenge and serology, that backs this claim. Dr Schultz has been reporting lifelong immunity since 1978. If you have research to the contrary, I’d like to see it. I really doubt it exists however, because out of all of the thousands of vets and researchers talking about vaccination, Dr Schultz is the only one looking into DOI which is a very sad state of affairs. Speaking of Dr Schultz, did you know he only vaccinates his own dogs once or twice as puppies for the core vaccines and never again. He also says that kennel cough is an “unvaccinatable disease” yet vets continue to advocate and deliver these shots. We want to see an end to over vaccination and needless vaccination of our pets and vets like you can help. The first step is to pay attention to what this researcher is saying and protecting dogs through immunization, not just vaccination.
This article is what is wrong with america…. people criticizing our well educated professionals…. please read this article to the hundreds and thousands of parvo dog owners out there and tell them that they did the right thing for not vaccinating.. or the owner that had their dog bite someone and the titer tests dont hold up in court. I have had to break the news to several pet owners that their cute puppy contracted parvo due to lack of vaccination on the owners part…. that has to be the worst feeling ever, knowing you couldve prevented your pet from getting a horrible possibly fatal disease. I feel horrible for the people that are going to follow this article and then end up with a dead or sick pet because they listened to you. Yes it is okay for pet owners to ask questions about vaccinations when they are at the vet… they encourage it! Veterinarians love to educate their clients! I would encourage you to sit through some veterinary courses before you write such an article again…. I mean that would be the best research and basis for fact on your article then wouldnt it?
Hi Kelly
This article has been endorsed, reproduced and shared by many holistic veterinarians. If you would like to hear a vet’s point of view regarding how ill equipped veterinary school is to help them make safe and efficacious vaccine decisions, please read http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/vets-on-vaccines/.
This information may be novel to you but it’s not to vets and pet owners who are seeing he damage that over vaccination can do and opening their eyes to the research that backs these claims up. I encourage you to attend a vaccine seminar with Drs Jean Dodds or Ron Schultz for more information.
Please do not believe any of the mis information/ miseducation written in this article by someone who has no legitimate training. It is really sad that you are spreading such erroneous information to the public. Do trust in your veterinarian, who are qualified by years of training to recommend preventative treatments necessary to your pets.
Vets put you between a rock and a hard place; they refuse to treat your companion animals i.e. surgery, if your animals are not vaccinated. Most vets I know insist on ‘bundling’ vaccinations – so you’re practically guaranteed of an adverse reaction. Why do my cats need to be vaccinated every year if they’re indoor cats? Why does my tiny dog require Bortadella every year? Titering should be COMMON PRACTICE in every veterinary clinic. Whatever happened to ‘first do no harm?” Two answers: sick animals mean business, and they’re asses are covered liability wise. It all comes down to $$$$.
And speaking of $$$$, I take serious issue with Ms. Scott’s claim that puppies “fly out of shelters.” As long as individuals breed, there will be innocent, healthy, adoptable animals killed by the millions. There needs to be at least a 5 year moratorium breeding of dogs, cats, all small animals, and birds. Spay/neuter saves lives, but not when breeders are exploiting animals for profit. But of course that’s another article.
Just ask the vet to titer and his face will go pale……… He knows how smart you are.if the titters are high why would you vaccinate?He can’t argue with that one.Rabies can’t be missed due to the law and if your dog gets bite by a wild animal he has to get qurrintined for weeks and go threw hell.lyme is the only one I give my weim since he had Lyme disease already and he is allergic to all commercial tick stuff as well as the fact the stuff is poision so I use essential oils and test him four times a year for Lyme.
What about the legally enforced rabies vac? Does it also carry 7 year immunity? In the early 90′s I had a normal 10 month old sheltie bitch vaccinated for rabies and within 24 hours she became as fearful as any wild and unsocialized dog. Then by age 5 she developed seizures and was dead by age 9. I have also had a filly develop strangles within 12 days of vaccination and my vet did acknowledge that the strangles was vaccine induced. Something has got to be done. I have been refusing vaccinations of the combo variety for years but rabies you cannot refuse by law. If rabies law could be changed to every five or seven years then other vaccine protocol could follow suit.
There’s no reason why it wouldn’t. Every viral vaccine should provide lifetime immunity. Dr Schultz did prove a 7 year efficacy for the rabies vaccine but that was with serology only. Researchers in France have shown a 5 year efficacy with challenge however.
Why do you guys have to demean and belittle others just because your opinions differ? No, I don’t feed raw, yes, I vaccinate my dogs for what I feel they need. I’ve been working at a vet office for the past 13 1/2 yrs and all in all, its the owners decision whether to vaccinate, accept recommended medications or proceed with surgery. If your unvaccinated cat bites someone, you can bet that’s going to be a costly quarantine, up to 6 months. If it were vaccinated, maybe 14 days. Heck, your cat just may have to be tested for rabies because it has endangered a human. If you don’t know what that entails, let me inform you. Rabies can only be tested by decapitation. Yea, we’ve seen it and its not pretty. No one can guarantee that their pets wont bite someone, they have teeth, and there just may be that particular situation where someone gets hurt.
If you don’t want to vaccinate, then don’t do it. Don’t get pissy because other people don’t agree with you. If you want to feed raw, go do it.
Not all vets are the same, not all diets are the same and opinions are like buttholes…everybody has one. Animals get sick. Bad breeding, bad diets, improper care and just bad luck.
By the way, my response is ONLY pertaining to cats and dogs. I do not want my words twisted into some crazy anti-humanitarian discussion.
You are absolutely right. Pet owners have the option of saying NO! Your vet can only make suggestions, not force you. My vet is awesome, she understands how I feel about vaccinating, actually over-vaccinating and accepts that I choose not to vaccinate after the puppy series, but, she will also let me know what the stats were the previous year for diseases and let me know what she feels my guys should be vaccinated for. She also does 3 yr vaccinations instead of yearly. In finding a vet, that was one of my questions I had for her. She is entitled to her opinion and I am entitled to mine, but I definitely appreciate her feedback. If my dogs bite someone, it is my responsibility. If I feel a vaccine is necessary, I will get it
I lost my best friend, Buddy, a border collie, almost a year ago to cancer at the age of 5. Since then, I’ve been trying to find why he got cancer in the first place, as he was very active and very healthy. There was no history of cancer in his background as he came from very healthy working stock from an organic farm. This article has at least given me a clue as to where to look for answers. I would be very interested in receiving those documents you mentioned.
I don’t see DVM behind the name of the author so this is just an opinion. I take my animals to QUALIFIED veterinarians for their health care & would NEVER disregard their expertise because THEY are the ones who went to SCHOOL for many YEARS to learn about the health of animals. If you don’t like what your vet is telling you then change vets.
Wow. You are the dangerous one. No pet overpopulation? Are you insane? Cancer causing prescription diets? Because there is what, no science or research behind these foods?
You profess to have evidence, but I see you quoting the same two vets in every article. Opinions are just that – opinions, not scientific fact.
It’s because of people like you telling people about the EVIL vaccines and EVIL money grubbing vets that is causing a resurgence in harmful diseases in all areas. Distemper and parvovirus is making a comeback due people blaming vaccines for everything. Maybe your dog has health problems because it was bred indiscriminately, or exposed to the zillions of toxins in our environment.
Not everything is because of vaccinating. I had to live as a critical care nurse back in the 80′s before there was a vaccine for Parvovirus. Can I tell you about the hundreds of puppies dying in my arms? Can I tell you about the sweetest cat in the world who became horribly deformed and had to be euthanized because of owners who jumped on the “raw food” diet craze without actually looking into what the drawbacks would be? You may be able to quote your two tired veterinarians, and defend you breeding of labs as “responsible” (because the shelters are not full of them – no, that is why there is an 80% euth rate of labs in Ohio shelters) but until you have lived life on our side of the fence, where unvaccinated animals die needlessly EVERY day, kindly keep your grossly misinformed anti-vaccine views to yourself. I don’t need another innocent life to die horribly because of you. I’m tired of the dying puppies.
Thank you for the article. I just picked up my wheaten terrier 2 weeks ago (he is 11 weeks old now) and the ‘breeder’ had him vaccinated for an array of things – 10 shots in 7 weeks. I went to the vet [before I had done any research], and after reviewing his shot history, she gave him a dewormer by mouth and a combo shot, without explaining to me. After reading your articles, I looked into it and realized she gave him injections he already had.
Although I am very upset about this, its already been done, and I won’t be vaccinating him annually after this. However, how do I know if I should continue with any of the puppy shots the vet suggests? (e.g. distemper). Thanks~
Run a titer three weeks after his last vaccination. If he has any amount of titer, the vaccine worked and he will be protected for life.
What a wonderful article! I am a mother of an Autistic child whom I wholehearted believe immunizations caused. Two weeks after receiving his 18 month shots my son stopped talking and eating. He is 5 years old now, receives 25 hours a week of therapy and is doing well. I have spent a fortune getting my son the help he needs. I’m not completely against getting your child or your pet vaccinated. However, I have done plenty of research on the human side of vaccinations and getting 4 shots at once, (maybe more for pets) especially if your child has a cold or compromised immune system can cause irreversable severe damage. I tend to believe it would apply to our pet companionas as well. Our biological make-up isn’t as far displaced as many would like to think. I allow my son to get only what is required by law and I space those shots out over weeks or months if I have to. As far as my pets…and I have a few, they only receive Rabies every 3 years because it’s required by law. I have never had a health issue with any of my animals. In fact, my vet gives me great compliments on the beautiful coats they wear, good weight, clear eyes and clean teeth. He still sends me reminders in the mail for those vaccines that are “overdue”…I just ignore them. In my heart I know I’m doing the right thing. There is pleanty of studies and scientific proof that vaccines are harmful to humans, just because the US FDA doesn’t recognize the research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exsist. I fear the same is true for animal research. Unfortunately, unless the boneheads sitting on capital hill decide to spend our tax dollars to prove this issue to be true, we will never see any rules, regulations or change put into effect to help our furry friends!!
Please e-mail me the documention for the vet that pets do not need vaccines every year. We, as humans, do not yet shots every year, why do our animals? even tetnus “lock jaw” is once every ten years. Lets think about it and what makes common sense. Why are we giving animals who on average weight about 50 lbs shots every year. Not common sense and thank you for publishing this article. I am not going to be giving them yearly shots again. I self administer to avoid the vet but I am not going to be the hand that leads to my dogs, that I love very much, to a diagnosis of CANCER. Thanks for saving my dogs some pain and suffering.
Thanks you so very much for such an informative article. I have often wondered why my dogs have always done fine if I am late getting their imunizations and why every trip to the vet is usually over a hundred dollars per dog. I pay more for their visits than my own trips to the doctor. Please send me the information about the truth about the imunizations so that I will have it for my vet on our next appointment. thanks
Dana, WONDERFUL article! Thank you for providing pet guardians with much-needed information. There is a dedicated veterinarian in Texas who runs critteradvocacy.org and has been working hard in the field of overvaccination protocols for many years. He would go to the Texas vet board meetings and they would either laugh at him or ignore him as he worked tirelessly to get people to listen to how vets were raking in the dough at the expense of pets’ lives. They’re not laughing anymore. We finally came a little bit out of the dark ages with some revamping of vaccination protocols and MOST IMPORTANTLY – educating people of the right to INFORMED CONSENT. So many beloved pets are needlessly dead because of this horror. Keep up the good work and never let any of these “doctors” back you down – I had one come after me with three lawyers trying to shut me up and dismantle my web site after I told the world what he did to my cat, and he found out real fast that it wasn’t going to work.
As for “Hannah,” I feel sorry for her future patients (victims). However, with her arrogance and closed-mindedness she’ll have plenty of company in the vet/pharma business. Ah, she’s young, though. Maybe not too many pets will have to die before she “gets” it, I hope.
In Canada, what happens to vets that try and keep our pets healthy? They lose their license, happened to Dr. Andrew Jones from BC. For trying to educate the pet owner on how to raise healthy pets. I have learned from experience that vets do not know everything as they have lots of different species to look after not just your species. I always looks for natural methods before running to the vet, and always research as much as I can.
Dana, thank you so much for a very well written article. I’m sharing your article far and wide. I’m between a rock and a hard place as I can’t find vaccines formulated separately. I see no reason on earth to vaccinate a pet for diseases that are not in this area. Should I decide to vaccinate for more than one, they should still be available separately! Help? Also, sadly, in rescue we cannot take the chance that a pet leaves unvaccinated. I’d like to alter our practices and vaccinate only for parvo, as that is our main concern. This also means that in many cases we may be over-vaccinating. Its not to be helped, but articles such as yours may well eliminate the new owners re-vaccinating in the future.
Hannah, dearest Hannah… You have the drive and dedication, the energy and passion, to be a stellar champion for the pets that are brought to you for help. As you gain experience, hopefully not many years from now, you will understand, as a growing number of us do, that over-vaccinating is detrimental to a pet’s health. Please sit down and do some homework before throwing out any notion that what is said here is pure BS. I have lived several of your lifetimes and have watched our pets’ life expectancy dwindle to half of what it once was. I challenge your inquiring mind and dedicated spirit to … chill and do some research.
Peace…
Please send me the vaccine information. The county where I live still requires yearly vaccinations although the state accepts once every three years. One vet told me it was because of the high incidence of rabies -HogWash!!!
I would like to send the information to the county commissioners.
Thank you
when i asked my vet about doing the titer for Distemper, etc. they said that since she is 18 months (and only got the puppy series) that her titers would still be too low and they would need to give her the Distemper, etc. vaccine anyway…..although the vet recommends the 1-yr shot as opposed to the 3-yr since it is too much vaccine at once.
What are your thoughts on the titer counts? I am very anti-vaccine and have been for some time. Pharmaceutical industry for humans and dogs is greedy and dangerous.
Leela, the 1 year and 3 year vaccine are the exact same vaccine – just a different label. How would they know that her titers would be too low without doing them? Immunity is an all or nothing thing – the puppy is either immune or not, and there is either titer or not. Any amount of titer is considered protective.
I suggest you read the following article and share it with your vet:
http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/what-every-vet-should-know-about-vaccines/
Make not of this quote from Dr. Schultz: “Only one dose of the modified-live canine ‘core’ vaccine (against CDV, CAV-2 and CPV-2) or modified-live feline ‘core’ vaccine (against FPV, FCV and FHV), when administered at 16 weeks or older, will provide long lasting (many years to a lifetime) immunity in a very high percentage of animals.”
There should be no need to revaccinate your dog if she received her puppy series. A positive titer will prove this and is a very good investment in your dog’s health.
down here. If you want to stay in your little dream world where all puppies get homes and don’t get euthanized because they aren’t adopted, then don’t come down here because you will get a huge wake-up call. You think pet overpopulation is a myth? Why don’t you tell that to the many, many puppies that are getting killed down here in the Southeast?. Your head is totally buried in the sand. Oh, and by the way, I foster dogs for several rescues and we carefully screen adopters, and our contracts also state that we will take a dog back if it doesn’t work out for any reason. Our adopters are people who have already had several dogs, know what they want and are completely prepared for the commitment a dog requires – financially and otherwise (does that sound familiar? That’s because we do the same thing as you except we’re not “selling” for profit. The difference beween us and the low-life puppy mill breeders down here (99% of whom are solely in it for the money) is that we spay and neuter our dogs first so they don’t keep breeding and contributing to even more overpopulation. Sorry I have such a negative opinion of breeders, but it’s just hard to watch beautiful adoptable puppies in the kill pounds die by the thousands while breeders are selling puppies. Please stop saying that pet overpopulation is a myth. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Thank you Jane, I agree with you 100%.
I won’t start a back & forth with you on this, Ms. Scott, because it’s not really the topic of your article on murderous vets. However, I don’t know where you live, but I live the in Southeaster U.S. and I ASSURE YOU that there DEFINITELY is a pet overpopulation down here and puppies DO NOT “go flying off the shelves” in the shelters here simply because there are way too many of them. They are euthanizing puppies EVERY DAY
Interesting that the author of this article is accusing vets of being unethical. Yet, she BREEDS Labs while thousands of Labs (many purebred) are being euthanized in kill-shelters due to animal overpopulation. Ms. Scott, examine YOUR OWN actions before condeming others.
Jane, yes I breed Labradors. I have also worked for years as a volunteer with rescues and shelters as a behaviour consultant. Please tell me what is wrong with breeding, well tempered, healthy dogs that go to homes that are EXTREMELY well screened. My puppy buyers are people who have already had several dogs, know what they want and are completely prepared for the commitment a dog requires – financially and otherwise. My contract states that I will take any puppy back that I produce, no matter the circumstances. What this means is that my puppies will never end up in a shelter. My screening process is much more intense than any shelter offers and I’ve seen shelter dogs returned countless times because the homes are not properly screened.
I’m sure you won’t listen to what I have to say, but there is not a pet overpopulation – that is a myth. Puppies fly off the shelves in the shelters. There is a pet retention problem and that is why most dogs that end up in shelters are young adults and adolescents. I am doing my part to keep dogs out of shelters and I am producing puppies that are raised naturally, with full health clearances and in the best conditions possible. I have bred five litters in the past ten years and pay over $20,000 per year to produce puppies properly so, believe me, I am not doing this for the money but to improve the overall health of dogs.
Wonderfully informative article!
Please send my documentation I can supply to my vet. Many thanks in advance.
Your article is great!
I completely agree with you. I get all my rescue animals spayed and neutered, and their annual shots. I would like to know which shots are not necessary. I noticed how most vets I used to go to would give me 10 different medicines/vitamins and I kindly decline all of them.. Now I have a great vet who actually cares about the animals. I would just like to know which shots I can avoid.
Thank you!
last year my vet deceided without my permission to give my tibetan mastiff a cocktail of all his shots at one time. the only reason i realized this, was when i got the bill. i questioned the office manager and was told the reason the bill was so high was that i normally do the shots twice in one year not all at once. i did not think much of it until two weeks later my dog had a seizure. i called the vet and was told to watch him closely and see if this happens again. it did two weeks later. i asked if it could be from all the shots at one time he said no. i talked to other tibetan mastiff breeders and owners and they told me it was possible. my dog now gets 1 1/2 grains twice a day of pheno his last seizure was 35 days ago. i wish i could give my former vet the same cocktail. my new vet does not agree with all these vaccines and said please do a titers prior to any shots. less is more. i am glad i took the time to find a new vet. it may save my current tm and my new puppy.
” i asked if it could be from all the shots at one time he said no. i talked to other tibetan mastiff breeders and owners and they told me it was possible.”
Taking medical advice from a breeder is both illogical and dangerous. Veterinarians have years of intensive medical training from highly accredited institutions. A lot of people forget this.
I would like to receive the supporting documentation for my vet as well as the owner of the kennel where I board my dog. There is no doubt in my mind that my older dog dies prematurely at the age of 11+ from complications from the vaccines. I have gotten my vet and kennel owner to agree to a 3 yr rotation except for Bordatella and Lepto but I would like to make this even better for him. I also understand that there are homeopathic vaccines for dogs. I am an N.D. and would like to find a source for this. Can you suggest one?
Having an article like this spouting erroneous information is very dangerous. I am a veterinary student, get no money from drug companies, and have learned the SCIENCE behind use of vaccines to prevent disease! I cannot emphasize enough how dangerous it is to have an unvaccinated pet! In the clinic, WE WEAR GLOVES AROUND UNVACCINATED ANIMALS TO PROTECT THEM FROM DISEASE. We treat them as if they are immune compromised, because they are! Your dog could DIE from contracting distemper or rabies. YOU NEED TO VACCINATE YOUR ANIMALS. Your veterinarian went to a school of MEDICINE for countless years so that they could advise you to keep your pet happy and healthy! DO NOT trust this article, trust your vet! And if you want a second opinion, go to another vet! This author has no scientific references for not vaccinating animals and you should not take this as veterinary advice!
Hannah stated: “In the clinic, WE WEAR GLOVES AROUND UNVACCINATED ANIMALS TO PROTECT THEM FROM DISEASE. We treat them as if they are immune compromised, because they are!”
Hannah, how is it even conceivable that an unvaccinated animal is immune compromised? I can give you PLENTY of research showing that vaccination causes immune suppression. For example, if you wish to contact W. Jean Dodds, she will let you know that the adenovirus vaccine creates immunosuppression for 10 days in vaccinated animals. Dr. Dodds no longer supports the use of adenovirus for this reason. Dr. Ronald Schultz can give you the same lowdown for the parvovirus vaccine – not to mention that it destroys the thymus. I trust you know who these noted researchers are? If not, you might want to familiarize yourself with their work.
Hannah, I really don’t want to make an example of you, but you are only proving our point that vets are not prepared to make informed vaccine decisions by your statement. Vaccines do not immunize, they sensitize. There are thousands of unvaccinated animals walking around who have measurable titers to the diseases you fear so you can take those gloves off. If you want to wear those gloves, you had better do it for the animals you handle that were vaccinated with MLV vaccines because those are the ones who are going to shed that virus.
Whilst we are on the topic, you might want to read our May 2012 issue – or email me privately and I will fill you in on the details on a case where two healthy puppies were vaccinated for distemper with a MLV and got distemper from the vaccine. Seem implausible? Well, not to Colorado State University where they determined that the distemper in the puppies was the vaccine strain, not the wild strain. If you want proof, I will hand that report over to you and you can bring it to class with you to discuss with your classmates. As a matter of fact, I have lots of those reports.
Please, Hannah, don’t be close minded and don’t be afraid to challenge conventional thinking. When you graduate, you will take an oath to first do no harm. The moment you vaccinate an animal without full recognition of both the benefits and the risks of that needle, you will break that oath.
What qualifications do you have to make any of the statements you just made? Have you taken courses in immunology, epidemiology, GENERAL BIOLOGY? I would like to make an example out of YOU and URGE pet owners to not take advice from a glorified animal trainer who thinks that reading a few articles makes them an expert. I cannot take you seriously. I urge you to read scientific articles and research about the vast benefits of vaccination. Ever heard of smallpox? How do you think we got rid of that? This whole article boggles my mind. I think that you’re really passionate about holistic medicine, however you’re misinformed.
After re-reading your reply, the condescension is beyond belief, coming from someone with absolutely no medical or scientific training.
Sorry Hanna, I disagree. We do not get re-vaccinated for every little ailments over and over once we are vaccinated its for life. Why shouldn’t it be the same for our pets? This article is not saying to never vaccinate your pets, they should have the initial vaccinations, and then have a titer test so see where their immunity stands. Studies show that some animals are protected up to 7 years in some cases. This is not only a waste of money for the pet owner but its dangerous to stress out their immune system. And these days its very hard to find a vet that is more interested in the health of their patients than in making money. You are a vet student, hopefully you will be different when you get your own practice.
I didn’t read the rest of your paragraph because your very first statement is incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine
And how about Tetanus? That’s not a very fun disease!
The history of medicine is very fascinating, I suggest everyone that is anti-vaccination should educate themselves.
Hi Hannah
The article speaks to viral vaccines, not bacterial. Tetanus is a bacterial infection, hence the need to vaccinate more than once, if vaccination is chosen. Deb is absolutely right when she states that viral vaccines are very likely to last for the life of the animal…and we have plenty of articles that show the science to back it up.
I too, would like to have the information you offered about vaccines sent to me. I have only in recent years, stopped vaccinating my dogs for anything other than rabies (required by law where I live) due to financial reasons, but now I am thinking maybe this is better for them anyway! Thanks for this article!
I loved the article! You noted in the article that if I emailed you, you’d provide me with all the paperwork I’d need to give to my vet to “educate” him on over vaccination.
Would you please email it to me?
Thanks!
Hello! I would also like to receive the informations on vaccines through my e-mail please! I bought a dog from particular almost 4 months ago … I got her all the vaccines and threatments they recommended .. and they told me i have to come back after 1 year to get the vaccines again.
This article scared me and i want the information to make sure i do the best for my puppy. Thank you !
Dana Scott and DNM,
Thank you for the great article on vaccinations.
We too decided some time ago never again to subject any more of our dogs to any unnecessary and destructive practice, having read in depth so much information and also speaking with the fantastic Australian holistic vet Dr Clare Middle.
When our GSD reached 10 months of age we asked Dr Middle to blood titre test (mainly for our peace of mind and confirmation for others) and we were all delighted with the titre results for immunity. The lab results spoke for themselves….so Koza has rated lifetime immunity, no more poisons for dogs.
Could you please forward us the aforementioned paperwork you mentioned?
thanks for the super articles. Richard – Perth, Australia.
I have had basset hounds most of my life, and for the past 25 years as an adult. I have had 5 die of various forms of cancer. The 3 I have now, all of them rescues that I got at about a year old, are getting rabies shots only. I feed a quality food and want to see if this makes a difference.
Please send me the documentation against regular vaccination.
Thanks,
A. Webb
My Schipperke developed mysterious seizures at about 4 years of age. The vet said he was epileptic, but I now wonder about this, as no other dog from that breeder had this, and it developed about two months after “routine” vaccinations. He also developed pancreatitis at 9 years of age, again with none of the usual precursors such as overweight or autoimmune problems. Finally, at 12 years of age, he developed bladder cancer, and died nearly a year later. Did the vaccines have anything to do with this? I will always wonder, even if the Vet said they had nothing to do with it. Then, I vaccinated my Schipperke puppy against Kennel Cough before showing her, and she got it anyway, and passed it to my Airedale Terrier. They snuffled for a couple of weeks like we do with colds, and are fine now. I think I will skip the vaccines in the future, and have healthier dogs.
I am very interested in receiving the information on vaccines for my Vet. I have a 13 yr old labx with a lump at an injection site (she said its a fatty tumor) and I just found another lump on his other leg. I am stopping all vaccines for him and will have my Vet do a titer test, if she doesn’t offer them then I am going to find another vet who does, but I want to go well armed with information.
I wish I had this info years ago
Be careful, my cat had a lump at a vaccine injection site… it turned out to be “vaccine site sarcoma”
My cat died as a result of the cancer.
Thanks Hunter, I’m so sorry you lost your cat.
My Mom’s cat also died from that about 20 years ago, back when they did annual vaccinations. I will be having her needle stick it to test for cancer when he goes in for his check up soon. I’m hoping she’s right and its just a fatty tumor. He’s too old to go thru surgery to remove his leg.
i would love to know more about the Lyme vaccine. is it really necessary to give it every year?
thank you,
gwen
Any bacterial disease, such as lyme or leptospirosis, needs to be boostered annually. Personally, I would only vaccinate dogs for lyme disease that I felt had a high risk of exposure, such as hunting and farm dogs. Preferential to prevent tick infestations, the vector for lyme disease, seeing as ticks spread other diseases as well that we can’t vaccinate for. On a personal note, I find this article highly offensive and wildly inaccurate. Please talk to your vet if you have any concerns about vaccinations or vaccine schedules, and also about the diseases that we vaccinate for. These diseases are still out there, in only 8 months of being a vet I have seen cases of distemper, parvovirus, and lyme disease in dogs, and many cases of distemper and calicivirus in cats. I could argue with whoever wrote this blog all day, but I’d rather just keep things civil.
Hi Dr Stephanie
We would welcome the opportunity to discuss this with you civilly. Please open the lines of communication as I’m certain we could all learn from it. We really would like to know where our inaccuracies lie as it’s not our intent to mislead pet owners but rather to protect them from the over servicing of our companion animals.
Dear Dr. Stephanie : Your right about treating only those dogs were the owners take them in the woods, Lyme is unheard of in dogs on a leash just walking on the street , it’s just common sense, and there’s no need to do any harmful vaccines just go over or check your dogs coat like I always did when I took my dog in the woods , so how come 90% of vet’s don’t explain this to there patient’s ? is it not because of 1 Tim 6:10 [ NIV bible ] and if you research Lyme in dogs it’s very rarely deadly that’s a fact, hardly a reason to administer a vaccine” that’s very dangerous to dogs !!! that’s a fact, also !., although rabies is the most dangerous to give a dog , a fact also !. And a simple anti- biotic will work just fine in like 90% of the time in like 7 days ,also what I learned through research. Dog’s cannot metabolize drug’s it’s that simple it’s basic canine 101 so why do 90% of vets like you take the drug route, you can help the problem your treating, but you create another health problem or ruin another organ like the saying” The cure is worse than the disease”. The God of the Bible didn’t make animals nearly as efficient as we are in getting chemicals and toxin’s out of our systems Ps 139:14 my dog when he was 14years old, people thought he was a puppy and he never had dog food ,visited a vet ,nor was ever vaccinated, as for dog food what did dogs eat before dog food , I’ll tell you they ate what there owners ate and were way healthier and lived longer, do the experiment yourself and see the difference in a dogs coat which tells you the health of a dog, it’s coat, does it shine, no , vaccines are not necessary and very dangerous how many perfectly healthy dogs are ruined every year by this Satanic practice ?, I leave you with this Bible scripture concerning the above simple common sense understanding 11 Thes 2:10 you have to examine your heart and mind as to why you got into the field was it not to make lots of money or that you really care about our fury friend’s?
Sincerely Bible Bill